All the 240s are the same performance. I don't even have th stock motor so it does not even matter how it came stock. 240s are not fast stock, we've established that.
So you agree, change the subject, and try to establish your "fast car?!"
I don't get it . ..
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a stock v6 beats teh heck out of your stock vehicle, and a modded v6 beats the crap out of your modded turbo4.
to beat any Mustang on a dollar per dollar basis, you've got to get a big 6, and twin turbo it.
That's the point.
Really? Where did you get that info? The fastest 240 which runs mid/high 8s is running a RB26DETT which is a skyline motor. I don't know of ANY 240s which run Z engines. The Z engine isnt really that strong believe it or not.
Show me a mustang 95+ which was purchased stock, that can run mid 12s, full interior, including AC (NO WEIGHT REDUCTION), on Street drag radials (not et streets). Who spent
11k on everything (including the price of the car), with a newer (95+) mustang with less tha 100k miles. That is also reliable and gets 25mpg. Sure, it can be done cheaper. I could have done it cheaper too. My car is 2900lb, I could have gotten a 91 240 and it would be 250lb less and CHEAPER. But I can tell you, you can't do the same in a mustang for much less. Sorry.
If you want to compete throw up how much you paid for the car and all your mods.
Really? Where did you get that info? The fastest 240 which runs mid/high 8s is running a RB26DETT which is a skyline motor. I don't know of ANY 240s which run Z engines. The Z engine isnt really that strong believe it or not.
Show me a mustang 95+ which was purchased stock, that can run mid 12s, full interior, including AC (NO WEIGHT REDUCTION), on Street drag radials (not et streets). Who spent
11k on everything (including the price of the car), with a mustang with less tha 100k miles. That is also reliable and gets 25mpg. Sure, it can be done cheaper. I could have done it cheaper too. My car is 2900lb, I could have gotten a 91 240 and it would be 250lb less and CHEAPER. But I can tell you, you can't do the same in a mustang for much less. Sorry.
If you want to compete throw up how much you paid for the car and all your mods.
So, the fastest 240sx's are running Skyline motors, which is the same as a Cobra transplant.
Hmmmmmm.
Re: your prices?
I don't think so.
Unless they're used prices. I've NEVER seen a turbo system for 1,000 dollars, for any car, that didn't need a rebuild.
Re: your request for totals on my car? so far I've spent 600 or so.
But mine isn't a junkyard dog that's falling apart.
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you're worried about gas milage? I was under the impression this whole debate was over times and power. Oh and I can tell you someone who has <11 grand in a 95+ 'Stang that turns in low 12's all day long. Your feat isn't all that great especially if someone is willing to get the dirty hands and do the work themselves. Hell, I have an 83 GT that I could throw a big fat shot of juice on for less than a grand and crank out 12's.
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My prices? The Maf is used (It's a 300zx) everything else new (except the motor too), I put a motor in which is stock turbo, and I just put a larger turbo in (stock manifold) so I just got a new bigger turbo, not a whole turbo system with piping and ****, the piping is included in the cost of the intercooler. And yes, it's a brand new dual ball bearing turbo, a GT25/40R .86 A/R turbo if you care to look it up (Atpturbo.com sells it) Mine isnt a junkyard dog either. I'm not comparing our prices because your car is much newer. I said a car similar year. But I bet you've spent more than me on ricing your car. lol. BS on the $600 too. Just the tires are 600. The CAI is probably at least 200, the pulleys at least 150, the Wheels probably 600-1000... So ya..
The Skyline motor is a 2.6 liter twin turbo (most people go to single). Nobody runs Z motors. They're hard to turbo (space) even in the Z's larger chassis. An inline motor is ALWAYS easier to turbo (only got exhaust on 1 side).
But you're getting me wrong, I don't have anything against mustangs, or domestics at all for that matter. But let's not act like they're sooo much better than the imports. Some imports yes, but not all.
Get a good car like a turbo Mr2, 240, conquest, Miata, Supra, etc. you can put down good power. As long as it's not Frong wheel drive, that's what makes most imports suck. I hate front wheel drive.
But you're pretty much as ricer as most of those honda guys who rice their ****, you just put on different looking rice. How does the interior trim make your car faster? Gas cover? Pedals? Painted cluster? I see domestic dudes make fun of *ricers* for this **** all the time and people like you do it just as bad and don't get made fun of. Your car isnt even fast yet you freely talk crap about imports.. I just don't get it.. It's not about actually feeling the car is inferior, because we know it's not, it's about just wanting to feel superior i guess. Almost like being racist. Are you guys racist too haha
you're worried about gas milage? I was under the impression this whole debate was over times and power. Oh and I can tell you someone who has <11 grand in a 95+ 'Stang that turns in low 12's all day long. Your feat isn't all that great especially if someone is willing to get the dirty hands and do the work themselves. Hell, I have an 83 GT that I could throw a big fat shot of juice on for less than a grand and crank out 12's.
Agreed. But you can't talk about price and throw around a 1995 vs. 1983 car. I'm not worreid about fuel economy. But a friend of mine has a Zo6 which runs 11s, and gets better gas mileage than my car. So dont' say it can't be done in domestics. The point i'm making is having a fast street car. Not just a nitrous only booger. I could have started with a gutted $400 shell and got all cheaper **** and made a faster car for a lot less money. The point is having a nice relaible fast street car. I have a buddy with a procharged 02 GT which runs pretty close to me (i'm faster). I like mustangs. My point was that I don't have some gutted shitbox of a car, it's actually a full interior nice AC, good fuel, good sterio, street car. And also I don't have some Supra that i've dumped 50k into.
If you like mustang so much why the hell are you trying to piss off all their owners??? you really arn't getting anywhere with any of us, the truth is you can make ANY car fast, you can mkae a geo fast. i don't care how fast your car is or how cheap it was, we all on this forum like mustangs, most love them. What is it your trying to prove by coming into our site???
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If you like mustang so much why the hell are you trying to piss off all their owners??? you really arn't getting anywhere with any of us, the truth is you can make ANY car fast, you can mkae a geo fast. i don't care how fast your car is or how cheap it was, we all on this forum like mustangs, most love them. What is it your trying to prove by coming into our site???
Get'em tomcat!! I with you, don't understand his point?
If you like mustang so much why the hell are you trying to piss off all their owners??? you really arn't getting anywhere with any of us, the truth is you can make ANY car fast, you can mkae a geo fast. i don't care how fast your car is or how cheap it was, we all on this forum like mustangs, most love them. What is it your trying to prove by coming into our site???
Not trying to prove anything. Just responding to you guys talking crap about imports. Not all imports are slow. And it does not take mucho $$$ to make all imports fast. It's pretty much equal. That's all my point is. So quit the ricer bashing. You guys have your fair share of ricers too. Like kscoyote, who is just short of a Bodykit on a basically stock V6 automatic mustang.
Like kscoyote, who is just short of a Bodykit on a basically stock V6 automatic mustang.
I have to agree KSCoyote fits the defination of a ricer and all he talks about are some quick V6's that he doesn't even own, but 240sxer, thats nice your cars runs 12's 13's or whatever it runs, sure you could beat some Stangs, but it's a 240 and it's not a Stang, see the thing is everyone wants to beat Stangs, I don't talk that ricer ****, it's stupid, but don't brag becuase you beat a Mustangs, because Mustangs aren't any good stock, V6's should all be crushed at a Junkyard, they ruin the name, point is though you drive a 240 and it'll never be a Stang, because until you own one, you'll just never know.
My prices? The Maf is used (It's a 300zx) everything else new (except the motor too), I put a motor in which is stock turbo, and I just put a larger turbo in (stock manifold) so I just got a new bigger turbo, not a whole turbo system with piping and ****, the piping is included in the cost of the intercooler. And yes, it's a brand new dual ball bearing turbo, a GT25/40R .86 A/R turbo if you care to look it up (Atpturbo.com sells it) Mine isnt a junkyard dog either. I'm not comparing our prices because your car is much newer. I said a car similar year. But I bet you've spent more than me on ricing your car. lol. BS on the $600 too. Just the tires are 600. The CAI is probably at least 200, the pulleys at least 150, the Wheels probably 600-1000... So ya..
The Skyline motor is a 2.6 liter twin turbo (most people go to single). Nobody runs Z motors. They're hard to turbo (space) even in the Z's larger chassis. An inline motor is ALWAYS easier to turbo (only got exhaust on 1 side).
But you're getting me wrong, I don't have anything against mustangs, or domestics at all for that matter. But let's not act like they're sooo much better than the imports. Some imports yes, but not all.
Get a good car like a turbo Mr2, 240, conquest, Miata, Supra, etc. you can put down good power. As long as it's not Frong wheel drive, that's what makes most imports suck. I hate front wheel drive.
But you're pretty much as ricer as most of those honda guys who rice their ****, you just put on different looking rice. How does the interior trim make your car faster? Gas cover? Pedals? Painted cluster? I see domestic dudes make fun of *ricers* for this **** all the time and people like you do it just as bad and don't get made fun of. Your car isnt even fast yet you freely talk crap about imports.. I just don't get it.. It's not about actually feeling the car is inferior, because we know it's not, it's about just wanting to feel superior i guess. Almost like being racist. Are you guys racist too haha
Actually, I haven't spent that much money the wheels were 125.00 from GEF racing, the tires cost the same, whether they're 16" or 17" (98.00 a pop) and with 75,000 miles, they're replacements.
I spend 50-150 a month in 5 alternating areas. engine, interior, exterior, suspension, and stereo. I have a plan, and I'm sticking to it. You'll notice I'm up to item #3 in stereo and interior, with 2 items in exterior, engineand suspension. next is the chip, then subframe, then either a mach1 front spoiler, or rear window louvers. Depends on what I want to do.
But then, it's MY car. And I do with it what I want. when I'm done with the suspension and the engine, I'll throw on a SC unit. but I'm not doing it until I'm ready to rebuild the engine. So what. For the amount of money I put into my engine, I'd beat the heck out of yours, and I'm having a great time with MY car.
I'm gettin g 35 mpg right now, I have enough mopney in the bank to consider buying a ZX2 or a Tiburon to drive do the 60 mile commute back and forth to work.
Say what you want, but anyone here will tell you that my advice is sound, and I've already built two cars that beat the crap out of your times. You can look in my gallery to see them. The Mustang ran 12s AND won best in show.
BTW, I'm the last person on this site to call anyone a "ricer," If you think that's who I am, you're looking in the wrong direction, dude.
This is A-f-n' merica. you do the he** what you want, and you have freedom of expression. If you want to use it to look stupid, then by all means, go ahead.
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well for the simply overlooked factor, the rear end gearing will eventually set the top end speed, plus the computer speed/rev limmiter doesnt help.. and on top of all tht, its only a v6... they are moreless built for gas-milage.... my 40 year old stock 289 v8 tore a new v6 to peices... god knows what my hopped up 289 would do to one of them....
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well for the simply overlooked factor, the rear end gearing will eventually set the top end speed, plus the computer speed/rev limmiter doesnt help.. and on top of all tht, its only a v6... they are moreless built for gas-milage.... my 40 year old stock 289 v8 tore a new v6 to peices... god knows what my hopped up 289 would do to one of them....
Which v6?
Do you know what stock times were for your 289?
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So what happened to the thread where 240xser appologizes for making up all the stuff about his car and for bashing the mustang?
Again, here we have a bunch of guys arguing about who's is bigger. If you have a fast car, then back it up with slips and pics. All this crap about "I can beat.... My car runs..... I know a guy who ...." it's all getting so old and boring.
I've never been able to get anything out of my stock 2000 V6 that resembles chirping and peeling out. It's dog slow off the line and needs a serious upgrade to make it peel out. It's dissappointing. I'll be the first to admit that the V6 Mustang is a POS stock. It has great potential and there are lots of options for making it fast, but I wouldn't trust it in a race the way it is.
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