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Old 03-27-2005   #1 (permalink)
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Well first off it was a crazy easter weekend. friday night out with my frined and his RSX type S we're coming hme from playing pool... we come across 2 identical white 300zxs..... what a site... and a camaro...

long story short neither of us had a chance but we raed back and forth for about 10 miles.


Tonight was great! I may have the slowest car... or so we thought ^^

Me and my frined in his celica left early to go play pool.... we both stop at a light side by side... we couldn't resist... I power braked... he dropped the clutch we both went.. I kept up with him in first and second a lil ahead and soon as he went to third I just blew like a car length ahead of him and the gap was getting bigger.

He was like WHAT THE **** DID YOU DO WITH YOU CAR JOE! I KNOW YOU DID SOMETHING I SHOULD'VE TAKEN YOU ON THRIRD, WHAT DID YOU DO?!

Last thing I remember doing was cleaning a dirty MAF ^^

Feels good to win again... I want to go up against my friends civic some time now.
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Awesome, it feels great to be able to use that power, doesn't it? Now I have a question, is power braking bad for the car? When I do it, I just feel like I might break something. I've done it anyway, it just kind of makes me nervous when I do it.
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Awesome, it feels great to be able to use that power, doesn't it? Now I have a question, is power braking bad for the car? When I do it, I just feel like I might break something. I've done it anyway, it just kind of makes me nervous when I do it.
There are two ways to launch in an automatic. a bad way and a worse way lol

The bad way is power breaking... it warps your rotors a bit, but rotors arn't expensive to replace.

the worse way is reving in neutral and then slamming it into Drive, getting fluid trapped in gears and ruining the trans.

So if you have a autoamtic, power break, maybe later on get a high stall converter o you dont ruin the rotors so much
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good job man, happy to hear it was a GT thought. My cosin use to have a real beater of a celica, paint was all faded but it was a GT-S 5-speed and that thing was actually really fast. all the time we would come up next to civics and just kick their ass. i think he even beat a Turbo Talon in it. we were going to rice it out using only parts you could get at pepboys, cheaker, or autozone. it was going to look like crap but be really fast. then he got a 78 Nova and we fell in love with the V-8.
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good job man, happy to hear it was a GT thought. My cosin use to have a real beater of a celica, paint was all faded but it was a GT-S 5-speed and that thing was actually really fast. all the time we would come up next to civics and just kick their ass. i think he even beat a Turbo Talon in it. we were going to rice it out using only parts you could get at pepboys, cheaker, or autozone. it was going to look like crap but be really fast. then he got a 78 Nova and we fell in love with the V-8.
Yeah my friend civic cant beat it... but that civic beat me, but i had a bad intake then I think with the clean intake I kick both of them. so that's good ^^
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I been drag racing since i was 16 on the track with my 67 cougar xr-7, which was also my daily driver, it was an auto, now i bought my 98 gt 5 spd. Power braking, how would that warp the rotors?, you arent heating them up, because they are just sitting there with the pads holding them still. brakes are made to stop and hold. the only thing you could do to warp a rotor is heat it up real bad i.e.- a light power braking to have the front brakes hold and the rears spinning... you could possibly warp a rear rotor if you did that for a long long time... Power braking is tough on motor mounts espicially if you have a motor with a lot of torque you can tear the motor mounts apart... Power braking also heats up the tranny( actually the torque converter). reving in neutral and slamming into gear? i dont know new transmissions but my 67 (C4 tranny), on accident i rev it in neutral, thought i was in d but pulled in into drive, hell the thing acted like it was still in neutral till 1700 rpm your something and then kind of clunked in. i would assume this is still a saftey feature in a new trannys too....
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My cousin has a 94 GT automatic.He revs it in neutral all the time and smokes the tires as good as a 5-speed.He has done this since 96.Damn thats alot of years but that GT still keeps on ticking.Is it really bad for your transmission.Cause on this subject i am a beginner
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There are two ways to launch in an automatic. a bad way and a worse way lol

The bad way is power breaking... it warps your rotors a bit, but rotors arn't expensive to replace.

the worse way is reving in neutral and then slamming it into Drive, getting fluid trapped in gears and ruining the trans.

So if you have a autoamtic, power break, maybe later on get a high stall converter o you dont ruin the rotors so much
heh, you *can* launch an auto by dropping it out of neutral? I always thought that was a one-way ticket to a new transmission, when the computer invariably guesses wrong just what the Hell you are trying to do!
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IT IS!

Someone should inform his cousin how much the effs the trans. I know becuse I needed a new trans after I started doing that.

The fluids get trapped in the gears and ruins the internals, tell your cousin to stop, I'm suprised he lasted this long.... Kind of weird.
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I been drag racing since i was 16 on the track with my 67 cougar xr-7, which was also my daily driver, it was an auto, now i bought my 98 gt 5 spd. Power braking, how would that warp the rotors?, you arent heating them up, because they are just sitting there with the pads holding them still. brakes are made to stop and hold. the only thing you could do to warp a rotor is heat it up real bad i.e.- a light power braking to have the front brakes hold and the rears spinning... you could possibly warp a rear rotor if you did that for a long long time... Power braking is tough on motor mounts espicially if you have a motor with a lot of torque you can tear the motor mounts apart... Power braking also heats up the tranny( actually the torque converter). reving in neutral and slamming into gear? i dont know new transmissions but my 67 (C4 tranny), on accident i rev it in neutral, thought i was in d but pulled in into drive, hell the thing acted like it was still in neutral till 1700 rpm your something and then kind of clunked in. i would assume this is still a saftey feature in a new trannys too....
well after a long dy my rotors are already hot and sitting there gripping the front end and letting the rear just spin ... well the one rotor at least doesn't help it much at all.

Because you have this Pad... on a warm rotor, and you just grind it away on the rotor by slamming the gas causing friction, friction creats Heat and at those speeds a lot of heat, this won't ruin it the first time but do it enough and that rotor will need a replacement. My engine doesn't have enough torque to get ripped out.

but the trans will be hurt more from Neutral revs and dropped in to drive, as the Torque Converter drops in the fluid it will get trapped and harm the internals, goes quicker.
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IT IS!

Someone should inform his cousin how much the effs the trans. I know becuse I needed a new trans after I started doing that.

The fluids get trapped in the gears and ruins the internals, tell your cousin to stop, I'm suprised he lasted this long.... Kind of weird.
My problem is I wind up accidentally doing this a lot. I will throw it into drive, and then hit the gas. The problem is that it's still shifting and has actually gotten into gear yet. It only happens when I first take take off. But when you just got out of class and are leaving school, you're kinda anxious to hit the road.
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That's not as bad. I know what you mean, like backing up and getting into drive quick and you kinda catch it as it switches and it revs a bit, but revivng to liek 4 k rpms and dumping it like that hurts lol.

Just have patience for them to get in gear
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That's not as bad. I know what you mean, like backing up and getting into drive quick and you kinda catch it as it switches and it revs a bit, but revivng to liek 4 k rpms and dumping it like that hurts lol.

Just have patience for them to get in gear
hah I once made the gears grind horribly on my car when I was doing a 3 point turn on a busy street (damn Mustang turn radius!!) and I needed to gun it quickly from reverse to drive, so the car was still moving backwards when I switched gears and it made an awful noise!
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hah I once made the gears grind horribly on my car when I was doing a 3 point turn on a busy street (damn Mustang turn radius!!) and I needed to gun it quickly from reverse to drive, so the car was still moving backwards when I switched gears and it made an awful noise!

Ugh I know... I through my car into park too quickly and I got that awful or an awful noise too... not good lol glad it's under warrenty
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Those turbo talons weren't that fast, stock. the aftermarket makes them heroes. Same goes for the GT-S.

The only really fast Celica was the Twin Turboed Supra, which was technically no longer a Celica.
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