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Old 10-08-2006   #16 (permalink)
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Those neons can be really fast. They are just hard to launch. get your heads out of you A$$es... that car won, and that motor will last for a long time at 22psi if its tuned properly... which with that kind of pull, I bet it is.. scary part is it doesn't take much.

GT500's are fast, but they are not the fastest things on the road.
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Yea everybody needs to get a clue, the GT500 is a Shelby in name only it’s a huge fat pig and as far as factory direct I would even brag about it. Now dumping some cash on the factory low tuned 5.4 should get some awesome results, but no matter how you slice it its still a fat pig.

Take that engine and drop it in a striped fox body then you would be cooking…..

And at 22psi that engine is only going to be good if there REALLY luck for a year. Neons are pos even if you add forced induction.

But no matter what that GT500 got spanked!
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Maybe my hearing failed me but I could only hear the blower whine on the 03/04 cobra and not the Shelby. Either way that Srt-4 is quick. No matter what kind car you drive you can not always out run the wallet. Deeper pockets normally come out on top.
that 04 cobra took off real quick on him, shows what weight will do for you. probably the reason why the 04 cobras blower was more audible, is because 1 he had a pulley on it, and 2. he has a different type of blower than the shelby. the Shelby has a screw type or lysholm blower which runs alot more quiet than the traditional dual rotor eaton in the 04 cobra.
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that 04 cobra took off real quick on him, shows what weight will do for you. probably the reason why the 04 cobras blower was more audible, is because 1 he had a pulley on it, and 2. he has a different type of blower than the shelby. the Shelby has a screw type or lysholm blower which runs alot more quiet than the traditional dual rotor eaton in the 04 cobra.
I was not completely sure about this, so I looked it up. The GT500 does have a roots type blower. Found the info on www.svt.ford.com
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that 04 cobra took off real quick on him, shows what weight will do for you. probably the reason why the 04 cobras blower was more audible, is because 1 he had a pulley on it, and 2. he has a different type of blower than the shelby. the Shelby has a screw type or lysholm blower which runs alot more quiet than the traditional dual rotor eaton in the 04 cobra.
The Shelby has the same type of blower as the Cobra and Ford GT which is a roots not a twinscrew.
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Remember guys back in the 60's, this is how Mopar came to be ontop...they took their baddest motor....the hemi or max wedge and put it in their lightest no frills car and Boom..they beat everyone. Its all about power to weight and traction and thats it.. simple and said.
I couldn't have said it better than that, thats why they were taking 1964 fairlanes and stripping the inside of the cars out and shoehorning 427's in them, thus the Ford Thunderbolt was born, "the Thunderbolt broke both elapsed time and mile per hour records in 1964, took the NHRA Super Stock title and won the Manufacturer's Cup". Racing is power to weight ratio and Traction and then your FAST, driver skill also comes into play very much.
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*Let me correct myself, they actually added weight so that they could be legal in the super stock class. Specifications
1964 Ford Thunderbolt
Wheelbase, inches: 115.5
Weight, lbs: 3225
Production: 100
Price: $3780
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Horsepower @ rpm: 425 @ 6000
Torque @ rpm: 480 @ 3700

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It's odd how they make a new mustang that weighs much more than mid-sized family cars in the 1960's, Props on beefing the motor but did they forget that less weight is much easier to shove a big ass motor in to go fast. I would much rather look ugly and be fast then look pretty and be slow.
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The Shelby has the same type of blower as the Cobra and Ford GT which is a roots not a twinscrew.
huh! could have sworn they had a twin screw. maybe i just read somewhere that they displace more.
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There is a local guy here the runs a 1992 Eagle Talon Turbo AWD. Its a total sleeper.. it has a 2.4 Liter JDM motor (just because its a 4 bannger doesnt mean it cant handle the boost... the 5.4 will blow up also on a lot of boost)that is built and has a large turbo and all the goodies. It pulls low 10's at 2200 ft. Its a 9 second car at sea level. it beats all kinds of cars. Remember guys back in the 60's, this is how Mopar came to be ontop...they took their baddest motor....the hemi or max wedge and put it in their lightest no frills car and Boom..they beat everyone. Its all about power to weight and traction and thats it.. simple and said. The GT500 is an awesome car, but its heavy and only packing 500 HP.. A modded neon at less than 3000lbs and packing the same would stomp on almost any street car.
No joke. Those AWD DSMs when modded are killers. Their bigger v6 AWD brothers aren't slouches either.
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huh! could have sworn they had a twin screw. maybe i just read somewhere that they displace more.
Oh I'm sure the GT's displaces more but it's a roots. I believe KB just realesed an upgrade for it.
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Did no one read the comments? I have to agree with some, I didn't hear a SC on the Mustang. You can always hear them on the earlier cobras and what not. I have to admit some disbelief twards the lagitamency of this gt500
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i've seen the gt500 run...its sc isnt all that pronounced...this one got beat...it happens...but 22psi in a neon and that neon wont be around that long anyways...you know what would happen if that race went on for awhile or even if it was one lap...bye bye goes the neon motor
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22 psi on a neon is nothing if you have the right intercooler..wastegate...bov.....a good ballbearing turbo ,kickass manifold and a fuel system.I have a friend with intercooler, wastegate,boost controller, and bov running on a stock fuel sys and turbo and he holds 23 psi to redline.Hes had it like that for a year now and the car is running just fine.It's a neon to everyone 'till it kicks you ass, then its and srt4.My props to the gt500....one of my favorites
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I think there are 3 factors why the neon won:

1. The abilities of the drivers
2. The Neon is far lighter, i heard the GT500 weighs a lot
3. There are varying mods in each car, the Neon may have had better ones
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you're right hotshot.The neon has a big advantage, once it hits 3rd and 4th gear it dissapears.Mine goes all over the road when i hit 3rd gear(need tires), u gotta love turbos!!!!.But the gt500 is a great car, it all comes down to who's got better mods.I've seen srt4s take on Vipers and 'stangs take on far better cars
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