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Old 11-29-2006   #31 (permalink)
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22 psi on a neon is nothing if you have the right intercooler..wastegate...bov.....a good ballbearing turbo ,kickass manifold and a fuel system.I have a friend with intercooler, wastegate,boost controller, and bov running on a stock fuel sys and turbo and he holds 23 psi to redline.Hes had it like that for a year now and the car is running just fine.It's a neon to everyone 'till it kicks you ass, then its and srt4.My props to the gt500....one of my favorites
like i said....cause how many people have the right intercooler..wastegate...bov.....a good ballbearing turbo ,kickass manifold and a fuel system? that manifold better be invulnerable kryptonian stuff sent to earth with superman...and just cause his car ran a year is nothing to be proud of or indicate how long its gonna live with 22psi...i'm pretty sure he isnt pushing it every night...if it lasts 2 years i'lll be impressed
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well off course he doesnt drive his car everywhere boosting 23 psi!!!nobody does that.....imagine what ur gas milage would be.I never said the damn car is undestructible, but changing the oil every 3000 miles and giving it a good tuneup every now and then will do the trick.
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changing the oil every 3000 miles and giving it a good tuneup every now and then will do the trick.
yep...and the trick will be getting it to last 2 years ... not redlining at 22psi it wont
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lmao....w/e you say bro....i'll shut up now because it looks like you've owned a couple of these and ovbiously you know a lot more that I do.you might wanna check out srtforums.com.Lots of "neon" owners have had their cars for 3 years and their are still working, and running 11 and 12s at the track.not to mention hahnracecraft's 9 sec "neon", but im sure they are all liers, and you of course are right!!
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lmao....w/e you say bro....i'll shut up now because it looks like you've owned a couple of these and ovbiously you know a lot more that I do.you might wanna check out srtforums.com.Lots of "neon" owners have had their cars for 3 years and their are still working, and running 11 and 12s at the track.not to mention hahnracecraft's 9 sec "neon", but im sure they are all liers, and you of course are right!!
never owned a neon and never would...but you are taking this personally arent ya....what are you, the neon spokesman? i just dont think they are a real car and certainly not a viable contender for any racing title....i'm not arguing with you....you think neons rule...i think they dont...let it go bro...if it lasts 2 years with 22 psi redlining i guess i was wrong...time will tell...go hug your neon and tell it that nghtrnnr doesnt have anything personal against it...let that neon live in the moment...today it won...2 years from now its motor is on the top of the scrap heap
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lmao no man im no spokesman, I just gave mi opinion like everybody else and you thought I was wrong because i was on the neons side.I didnt think it was wise of you to talk about a car you've never owned or maybe never even driven before.well neither of us is wrong or right, it all comes down to how you drive and take care of your car.Im not trying to start an arguement i just gave my opinion, if I ofended you im sorry.I hope this settles it.By the way nice pony, i was going to buy one just like yours but i didnt wanna deal with the gas issue, other than that great car
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lmao....w/e you say bro....i'll shut up now because it looks like you've owned a couple of these and ovbiously you know a lot more that I do.you might wanna check out srtforums.com.Lots of "neon" owners have had their cars for 3 years and their are still working, and running 11 and 12s at the track.not to mention hahnracecraft's 9 sec "neon", but im sure they are all liers, and you of course are right!!
yeah...never took it personal?...never got upset?...and this statement isnt tinged with sarcasm? then in that case thanks for the accolades...but i'm no smarter than you and i'm sure they arent all liars...even though you got a lil upset i was never downing you...just that crappy neon...my grandad had one and even with him driving it the thing conked out after 8 months and thats new with no mods...the car sucks...but thanks for the compliment on the mustang...
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not mad...just trying to prove my point.Yeah i might have used a little bit of sarcasm but im sure you didnt get mad.and you are 100% right, neons suck....srt4 rule(I know u hate them ).and dont come to me with that crap about srt4 and neons being the same ****, wish you probably think anyways but oh well, can't change the way you think.If your ever down here let me know, we might have a pretty good race, maybe you'll change you mind, and let this be the end of it because in the long run you'll never like srt4s, and I'll still love mustangs...even though they gave me such a hard time, it was fun
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As much as I don't like them, srt-4's are fast and inexpensive. They have a great power to weight ratio and the engine is relatively tough. But on the downside I don't think they look muscular in the least, they don't ever sound good, and the interior is cheaper than a Camaros.

Like Reddevil says, his friend doesn't run at 22psi all the time, whereas one of our modded Cobra friends will constantly be putting nearly 500 rwhp to the ground all the time. There's up and downs to any setup.
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well of course....you can't match a v8 to a v4....v8s are a lot tougher and can take a lot more punishment.But why would I want to drive my car at a high boost mode all the time, all i gotta do is push a couple of bottons on a small computer and the boost goes up, when im done kicking ass i'll do the same and go home.interior wise....lmao..yeah they suck, just like a damn chrysler sebring, but like dave said....theres up and down to every setup out there, you just gotta find the one that will satisfy your needs the most.By the way...i got my ass whooped by a blown 'stang.******* kennebell!!!!!!!He only took me by a car, but I still got killed.I dont think he was much of a driver, he could've done better
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The thing is that new mustang engines arent very big. There are some quick Neons out there and running 22 psi of boost is like almost doubling the displacement of the SRT-4 engine. It seemed to me that the guy in the GT500 started out every race near his red line and shifted slow. I will tell you how to blow away anything on the street. Go buy yourself (prepare yourself, im going to say the C word) a Chevy Nova (not the econo box ones lol) and drop in a 489 or 496 stroker. It will walk away from anything that can even run on the street if you can drive worth a damn. I notice that Neon was othing until his turbo spooled up though. But it pulled pretty darn hard when it did. Reminds me of the '72 Chevelle my dad used to have, a circle track build 307 (those are boat anchor engines except when built for running on an oval tack) and the thing could tach up 8 grand (I think more but the old man never pushed it harder). Cars had that thing four, five, six lengths but once it hit four grand everything was a blur and that sucker would leap and fly by them. Car lot lots of challenges too because it was running like .560 lift and so much duration that the cam lobes literally looked like squares. (Fuelie Chevy heads dnt flow well at extreme lift). Anyway, you can win alot of races that way, but if youre running from a dig and the guy your against shuts down every time he has enough on you, you wont get that chance to run him back and you loose. Plus, when youre pushing close to 600 ft lbs of torque, youre never going to have a boring ride in your car.
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I am gonna have to agree with Reddevil on this topic. I used to own an 85 Omni GLH, turbo 2.2L. I ran 13 psi with no intercooler for over 8 years. street driven daily. cast iron intake. however, a few friends were pushing 20 psi and above on their daily drivers. 87 Omni GLH's, CSX's, Shelby Chargers...they all have the same 2.2L motor but with different intakes. the thing is, the bottom end of those motors are extremely strong for those little motors. Dodge over engineered those motors for what ever reason. and we could abuse the boost for that reason.
The SRT4's bottom end are the same as those mid 80's Dodges. it would be streetable, but it would also have a hair trigger.
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well lots of people think that just because is a 4 cylinder car it won't last long under high boost.....but these cars have proven to be real tough.I'll tel you who else was tough...my 95 gt!!I drove that car for about 8 months after i bought it without changing the oil or sparkplugs...oh i also raced about 3 times a week, he never gave up on me!!
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well lots of people think that just because is a 4 cylinder car it won't last long under high boost.....but these cars have proven to be real tough.I'll tel you who else was tough...my 95 gt!!I drove that car for about 8 months after i bought it without changing the oil or sparkplugs...oh i also raced about 3 times a week, he never gave up on me!!
oh yeah. I didn't mention the autocrosses I attended twice a month and the drag strip appearances about as many times a month too.

dang, I wish I had that car back. surprised many Mustang GT's with it. and some Camaro's too. That GLH only weight 2400 lbs. but with nearly 200 hp, it would get up and run. I could nail 2.1 60 foots on street tires.
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last nite some kid with an oldass GTI tried to race me.He pulled next to me and looked at me, downshifter to 2nd and gunned it, i was in 3rd and I went for it, he didnt even get a chance to pull a car in front of me when i flew by him.Then we stopped and he tells me to go from a stop, but there were to many cars and I didnt wanna risk it.He nods his head and tells me that from a stop he would "destroy" me, and he went on saying that he smokes cobras all the time!!!Typical RICER..wearing his hat on backwards, christmas tree lights all around his car and he even had that thing that holds surfbords or luggage i dunno on the roof of his car.Then we went our sepparte ways, he kept revving his engine and swerving through traffic trying to impress somebody
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