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Old 11-04-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Default 80mph Speedo in 1977 Mustang V8 Cobra II?

I have what appears to be a very original 77 V8 Cobra II.

I finally took it for a long drive and finally noticed that it has an 80mph speedo.

What? Huh?

This can't be right.

Any thoughts? Does anyone know what speedos went where and why?

I'm assuming the worst and that someone swapped guage clusters to misrepresent mileage (not that mileage matters so much after 30 years).

It's kind of a bummer since I fully plan to break that 80pmh limit on discreet safe occasions.

Lemme know.

Elwood in Brooklyn.
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i have a all original 77 cobraII,not as nice as yours,my speedo is factory and goes to 120.
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I heard that from the late 70's to mid 80's the goverment mandated that speedo's could not be higher then 85, or something like that. I had an 81 v8 turbo trans am that pegged out at 85. how depressing.
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I have a 77 2+2 all original with the 302 V8, my factory speedo tops out at 80. There was no law governing speedos in the 70's, just the gas crunch and 55 mph max speed limit. This was probably just a Ford thing? My car has seen 101 in the 1/4 mile so far. Since I bought the car 4 months ago I have started to dress it as a Cobra. I don't believe there were any differences in the Cobra II's other than cosmetics to the interior / exterior as I have seen them with V6's and 2300's also (someone correct me if I am wrong). 120 speedos are available on E Bay and I have also seen what appears to be a factory 160 (not sure what factory) lol but looked great. Here are some shots of my 77 at a recent car show on Fremont Street (downtown Las Vegas).
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Thanks Everyone. I don't feel so hosed now. If anyone else is reading this thread, let me know what you have.

Rock on.

Elwood in Brooklyn.
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85 MPH speedometers
I was looking for the actual law or whatever but this will give you an idea. I also think states that had 55mph speed limits would qualify for federal aid in taking care of the roads, but would lose it if they had roads posted higher then that.
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85 MPH speedometers
I was looking for the actual law or whatever but this will give you an idea. I also think states that had 55mph speed limits would qualify for federal aid in taking care of the roads, but would lose it if they had roads posted higher then that.
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GREAT READ! Excellent work.

By the way, that tread unravels real quick into quite a hilarious read. NICE.
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Just in case STANGII didnt read the link......

The law was Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 127,
a NHTSA regulation. The repeal process started shortly
after Reagan took office. The Federal Register notice
stated:

In February and March of [1981], NHTSA undertook a
comprehensive review of its existing and pending
vehicle safety standards. The purpose of the review
was to determine what modifications could be made to
the standards to reduce the regulatory burden on the
automobile industry without sacrificing safety. Among
the factors considered in evaluating each standard was
the magnitude of the standard's contribution to
safety, the likelihood that manufacturers might
continue to comply with the standard after its
modification or rescission, and the costs of the
standard. ...

Among the standards considered was Safety Standard
No. 127, Speedometers and Odometers (49 CFR 571.127).
... The speedometer requirements became effective on
September 1, 1979.

The rule was officially revoked effective March 25, 1982.

The electronic Federal Register archives do not go back to
the original rulemaking process under Carter.

The process shows how the predient affects the attitude of
the government towards regulation. Carter's NHTSA had
claimed that tamper-evident odometers were essential for
safety. Under Reagan, they weren't a safety problem any
more.

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Hard to find mid 70's dash's. So what years did they actually mandate the 85 speedo? Does this mean that the 120 speedos for Mustang II's are actually from earlier years say 74-76?
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i just checked my 76 mustang II,2.3,auto, and it goes to 120.bone stock original.
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80mph speedo was standard I think, and 120mph was an option, I've seen the 80mph speedometers in come Mustang IIs, but both my '74 and '76 Ghias had 120mph speedometers (in fact, the '74 cluster is now in my '76) and the engine doesn't seem to have mattered because the '74 is a 2.3/4spd and the '76 is a 302/automatic.
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All IIs from 1974 through mid-77 had 120 speedos. My '77 (VIN119XXX)was built in October 76 with a 120 unit. Once bought a 12000 mile original Cobra II that had the 85 in it (VIN 143XXX), although it was a San Jose car. If I still had a working fiche reader, could check the parts fiche, they may break it by date in there.
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Mine is original and 120 as well
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too old to wear a speedo.......LOL
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Mine is original also and is a 120.
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