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Old 06-08-2006   #1 (permalink)
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MT is reporting that GM is having problems keeping the 2008/9 Camaro under 4000lbs, much less the mod-3000lb range on the concept. The Holden Sedan it's based on has tougher crash regs than in the US (Not sure I believe this!) and the IRS is adding to the weight problems.

Looks like it'll be a closer contest than originally projected! If the BASE Camaro is 500lbs over target, wonder what the Z28 will be?


In any case, it looks like the computer simulation data is all wrong and the Mustang may have an advantage over BOTH the Camaro AND the Challenger.
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So this isn't limited to our waist lines anymore, it's an epidemic.
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MT is reporting that GM is having problems keeping the 2008/9 Camaro under 4000lbs, much less the mod-3000lb range on the concept. The Holden Sedan it's based on has tougher crash regs than in the US (Not sure I believe this!) and the IRS is adding to the weight problems.

Looks like it'll be a closer contest than originally projected! If the BASE Camaro is 500lbs over target, wonder what the Z28 will be?


In any case, it looks like the computer simulation data is all wrong and the Mustang may have an advantage over BOTH the Camaro AND the Challenger.
did they officially annouce the camaro yet...as a production car?
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did they officially annouce the camaro yet...as a production car?
I don't know. Everyone sez it's a done deal . . .
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torch, your SVT was born on my birthday^^^
anybody know what the price range of the new camaros is gonna be? i know its gotta be expensive with all the features (i think they're gonna have the selective cyclinder thing where when you're just cruising the engine cuts power from 4 cyclinders for fuel economy) (GM VTEC)
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torch, your SVT was born on my birthday^^^
anybody know what the price range of the new camaros is gonna be? i know its gotta be expensive with all the features (i think they're gonna have the selective cyclinder thing where when you're just cruising the engine cuts power from 4 cyclinders for fuel economy) (GM VTEC)
that's not VTEC, -but yeah, it'll have the 300C/Magnum/Challenger/Charger multiple displacement cylinder shutoff thing going . . .

Costs are thought to be within $2000 of the Mustang with V6/V8/SuperV8 engines . . .
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anyone have a picture of the production camaro? i'm shopping for a garage buddy for my mustang and so far i like the challenger or the pontiac solstice...the soltice aint fast but its soooo sweet looking
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they are saying that the camaro at the auto show is the production car - they arent changing anything
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the soltice aint fast but its soooo sweet looking
i read somewhere that they're coming out with an 8 cycl. version of the solstice... i saw one at the PX a few weeks ago.. they do look pretty nice
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The Solstice GXP /Sky Turbo aren't slow, by any means . . .


no final photos, but it should be very close to the concept. Interior will change quite a bit.
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i read somewhere that they're coming out with an 8 cycl. version of the solstice... i saw one at the PX a few weeks ago.. they do look pretty nice
That's the Mallett Solstice - similar to a Saleen Mustang.
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/...t_solstice.asp


GM will NOT produce a V8 Solstice.
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anyone have a picture of the production camaro? i'm shopping for a garage buddy for my mustang and so far i like the challenger or the pontiac solstice...the soltice aint fast but its soooo sweet looking
The GXP version is not bad at all.. 260hp
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I think the GXP is more than 260 horse, it's a v8. My wife has an '04 GTP COMP G, it's a 3800cc supercharged v6 with 260 HP. I'll be honest, I drove it occasionally before I got my '06 GT and it will flat a$$ fly. Is over a foot longer than my Mustang, heavier, and has 4 doors and handles like a cat. I read the test on the GXP, they said it was nose heavy with bad oversteer, I don't remember the HP rating but think it's little over 300. It should be faster in a straight line than my wifes car and hers is d**n decent for a 4 door.

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Have you seen the Mallet Solstice? It has a 400 HP LS2 in it! with a 6spd! its 40K and they are building a limmited amount....but you can buy a base solstice and take it to them and for 20Grand they will hook it up.
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the sky turbo has 260 hp and torque
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