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Old 07-20-2006   #1 (permalink)
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Just went down to Coburn Ford here in Boonville and there was a red GT500 Vert in the showroom. It was nice and all, but nothing like all the hype would have it. The back wheels and tires looked off, kind of like just sticking out of the fenders. Was pretty cheap for GT500 Vert though- sold for $73k.
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Only $73k? I'll take three!
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I've got a pretty decent album of the new GT500 posted up here for anyone that wants to see it. The pics were taken at the release of the car at Ceiner-Woods Ford in NC. I was somewhat let down by the appearance also. It's only a matter of time before companies start releasing body kits to alter the car to look more like it did as a pre-release vehicle.
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Thats only 30K over factory invoice...
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I've got a pretty decent album of the new GT500 posted up here for anyone that wants to see it. The pics were taken at the release of the car at Ceiner-Woods Ford in NC. I was somewhat let down by the appearance also. It's only a matter of time before companies start releasing body kits to alter the car to look more like it did as a pre-release vehicle.
Wouldn't it feel kind of weird putting a bodykit on a limited-edition car? Personally, I think I have decided that I find the CS6 to be more exciting than the GT500. Don't know how much they are going for, though.

That being said, I just hope I get a chance to actually see a GT500 in person.
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Wouldn't it feel kind of weird putting a bodykit on a limited-edition car?
Yeah, especially when you just paid $73k. This thing just doesn't look right to me for some reason. Looks kind of like a hack job or something. Nowhere near the refined look you would expect for this level of car, and I'm talking at the $40-45k price range. A Terminator Cobra blows this car away in the sense of looking like something very well refined and worth the money.
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Personally, I think I have decided that I find the CS6 to be more exciting than the GT500. Don't know how much they are going for, though.
Clicked a link on AFM to a place selling the CS6 components. Looks like the whole kit is going for $14,999. Add that to the price of the V6 Mustang and you have bought a GT, so maybe it isn't so exciting, after all.

Of course, the GT500 is going for, what, $40k - $50k over the price of a regular GT, at least? Give me a regular GT and $40k and let's see what I can end up with - and I'm far from being an expert! The older Shelby's are cool, but I can't help but think that the name has just been sold out with these newer ones.
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Not if it made the car look like it should have from the factory.
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Not if it made the car look like it should have from the factory.
I see your point. I wonder how much it would cost to take a 'regular' S197 GT, upgrade everything to pretty much the same specs as the GT500 and then put one of those bodykits on it?
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Maybe the coolest would be a regular GT, then modd it like the CS6 in looks and install a built motor + S/C putting 500+ HP. I think it would cost less than 70K to do this. and you would have a unique car to your taste. I think this is what having a mustang is all about anyways...you can customize them to your liking.
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I've been unimpressed with the new GT500 from the moment Ford's online advertising kept trying to sell us on the idea that a supercharged modular engine putting out lots of torque equates "big-block torque".

While a supercharged modular engine is an impressive piece of technology, it'll never have the wierd, fantastic feeling that you get when a big-block engine strains against its motor mounts and the car just takes off... even in 190ish hp 455s (which still had nearly 370 ft/lbs of torque!) in big-body four-door Oldsmobiles, that feeling was there when you matted the go-pedal from a dead stop, it's about that massive weight shifting under the hood as it wakes up. I never understood it myself until I had my '75 Tbird (which itself had a 460 that put out all of 215hp and 366 ft/lbs of torque in stock form...) The supercharged 5.4 will just rumble, whine, and take off.... the unmistakable feeling of a big-block iron mill just won't be there.
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Clicked a link on AFM to a place selling the CS6 components. Looks like the whole kit is going for $14,999. Add that to the price of the V6 Mustang and you have bought a GT, so maybe it isn't so exciting, after all.

Of course, the GT500 is going for, what, $40k - $50k over the price of a regular GT, at least? Give me a regular GT and $40k and let's see what I can end up with - and I'm far from being an expert! The older Shelby's are cool, but I can't help but think that the name has just been sold out with these newer ones.
On the other hand, the car should absolutely outperform a GT . .. In the price is probably a $5-7,000 premium for the Shelby name .. ..
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I've been unimpressed with the new GT500 from the moment Ford's online advertising kept trying to sell us on the idea that a supercharged modular engine putting out lots of torque equates "big-block torque".

While a supercharged modular engine is an impressive piece of technology, it'll never have the wierd, fantastic feeling that you get when a big-block engine strains against its motor mounts and the car just takes off... even in 190ish hp 455s (which still had nearly 370 ft/lbs of torque!) in big-body four-door Oldsmobiles, that feeling was there when you matted the go-pedal from a dead stop, it's about that massive weight shifting under the hood as it wakes up. I never understood it myself until I had my '75 Tbird (which itself had a 460 that put out all of 215hp and 366 ft/lbs of torque in stock form...) The supercharged 5.4 will just rumble, whine, and take off.... the unmistakable feeling of a big-block iron mill just won't be there.
yeah, I miss my Cougar, from time to time - I couldn't get from one part of Kansas City to the other without filling it up though .. . .

but yeah, it's awsome feeling the engine pulse through the whole car . . . All the manufacturers now beleive that what people want nowadays is "refinement" -Lexus engines where you can put a penny on the exhaust, and it'll stay there.

It's even infecting BMW.
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On the other hand, the car should absolutely outperform a GT . .. In the price is probably a $5-7,000 premium for the Shelby name .. ..
I'm not saying that it wouldn't be fun, just sort of the same thing I am saying about the GT500 - you could lose the Shelby name and build something just as fast (or have it built to your specs) for a lot less money. In fact, were I going to build a six, it would have the Pony Package that I can't shut up about and nothing to make it look like anything aside from a V6 - that would be the fun of it - seeing ricers' jaws drop when they think they have done enough to their car to beat a V6 Mustang. If I replaced anything with lighter material, it would still have to look stock - in Grabber Orange.

The old Shelbys would be worth the extra pricetag for the name (assuming I had that kind of cash) because they are legendary. I can't help feeling, though, that both the C6 and the GT500 are simply marketing packages rather than real attempts to add to the legend.

I still think the best 'special edition' Mustangs available to us are the Terminator Cobras - and even brand new they costed, what, about half or even 1/3 the price of a GT500, depending how high they end up going? Tell the truth, I'd rather have one of the newer Mach 1s than a GT500, but I have a soft spot for Mach 1s of any generation.
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I'm not saying that it wouldn't be fun, just sort of the same thing I am saying about the GT500 - you could lose the Shelby name and build something just as fast (or have it built to your specs) for a lot less money. In fact, were I going to build a six, it would have the Pony Package that I can't shut up about and nothing to make it look like anything aside from a V6 - that would be the fun of it - seeing ricers' jaws drop when they think they have done enough to their car to beat a V6 Mustang. If I replaced anything with lighter material, it would still have to look stock - in Grabber Orange.

The old Shelbys would be worth the extra pricetag for the name (assuming I had that kind of cash) because they are legendary. I can't help feeling, though, that both the C6 and the GT500 are simply marketing packages rather than real attempts to add to the legend.

I still think the best 'special edition' Mustangs available to us are the Terminator Cobras - and even brand new they costed, what, about half or even 1/3 the price of a GT500, depending how high they end up going? Tell the truth, I'd rather have one of the newer Mach 1s than a GT500, but I have a soft spot for Mach 1s of any generation.
Yeah, that's the real fun of the six!

The Roush Stage III should outperform the GT500(except you know you could probably get a LOT more power before grenading the block of the Shelby).
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