huh? WASHINGTON (AP) -- Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before being used on the battlefield, the Air Force secretary said Tuesday.
The object is basically public relations. Domestic use would make it easier to avoid questions from others about possible safety considerations, said Secretary Michael Wynne.
"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation," said Wynne. "(Because) if I hit somebody with a nonlethal weapon and they claim that it injured them in a way that was not intended, I think that I would be vilified in the world press."
huh? ummmm...better to test the weapon on our own citizens first so we dont get vilified in the world press? huh? heres an idea jackass...how about you stand in front of it...let them test its"nonlethal" attack on you and that settles that
That's without a doubt one of the dumbest statements I've ever read. That guy should never be allowed to speak to the press again.
Ever heard the phrase all's fair in love and war?
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Non Lethal weapons in a war zone.WTF... I nderstand it in a peace keeping operation, but in a war zone. Whatever, if it harms them and doesn't kill them they should be happy one of our brave soldies didn't cap their ass permenantly.
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huh? WASHINGTON (AP) -- Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before being used on the battlefield, the Air Force secretary said Tuesday.
The object is basically public relations. Domestic use would make it easier to avoid questions from others about possible safety considerations, said Secretary Michael Wynne.
"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation," said Wynne. "(Because) if I hit somebody with a nonlethal weapon and they claim that it injured them in a way that was not intended, I think that I would be vilified in the world press."
huh? ummmm...better to test the weapon on our own citizens first so we dont get vilified in the world press? huh? heres an idea jackass...how about you stand in front of it...let them test its"nonlethal" attack on you and that settles that
Okay...better to test it against a crowd that has gotten unruly and may be throwing rocks or bottles rather than letting the first use be on a battlefield against someone that you are also firing bullets at? I call B.S. on Wynne's statement. I say that the truth is they want to be sure the damned thing is going to work by testing it on Americans before relying on it to protect their ass in battle. I mean, 'a wartime situation'...you're firing artillery and small arms at them in an attempt to blow them to smithereens but you don't want to risk hurting them unintentionally with your nonlethal device? Riiiiight (wink wink nudge nudge.)
why don't they just use it on a herd of cows or a flock of sheep? lol that way, if there are "unforseen complications" they can sell the poor farmer on the idea of mutilation by aliens! LMAO...
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why don't they just use it on a herd of cows or a flock of sheep? lol that way, if there are "unforseen complications" they can sell the poor farmer on the idea of mutilation by aliens! LMAO...
Or, call me crazy, but here's an idea - try it out on some terrorists who they would kind of like to capture and interrogate. If it reduces them to bubbling puddles of goo then, oops - oh, well. If it doesn't work, go to plan B and blow the ba$tard$ sky high with artillery rounds.
I try to stay on this side of sanity from conspiracy theories and government paranoia, but the idea that they would test new weapons on American citizens rather than on an enemy military certainly does begin to lend some validity to the whole 'the government is our enemy' angle. Of course, they tested the effects of radiaton on veterans in VA hospitals and patients at other hospitals without patients' knowledge or consent, so why should this surprise us?
Then that guy should be willing to test it on his own family.
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Or, call me crazy, but here's an idea - try it out on some terrorists who they would kind of like to capture and interrogate. If it reduces them to bubbling puddles of goo then, oops - oh, well. If it doesn't work, go to plan B and blow the ba$tard$ sky high with artillery rounds.
I try to stay on this side of sanity from conspiracy theories and government paranoia, but the idea that they would test new weapons on American citizens rather than on an enemy military certainly does begin to lend some validity to the whole 'the government is our enemy' angle. Of course, they tested the effects of radiaton on veterans in VA hospitals and patients at other hospitals without patients' knowledge or consent, so why should this surprise us?
You try it out on terrorists and you will have the ACLU screaming torture.
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You try it out on terrorists and you will have the ACLU screaming torture.
That's who we should test it on, the a.c.l.u.
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That is part of the problem with this country, we are fighting a war with an unconventual enemy who cuts off the heads of civilians captured for their cause and we are “worried what others might think”
US solders are not peace keepers, they are trained solders trained to kill or be killed.
US solders should not be involved in peace keeping missions.
Petty Officer John Washak said this in reference to his experience with the terrorist bombing of the USS Cole……..
The destroyer's rules of engagement, as approved by the Pentagon, kept its guards from firing upon the small boat loaded with explosives as it neared them without first obtaining permission from the Cole's captain or another officer. Petty Officer John Washak said that right after the blast, a senior chief petty officer ordered him to turn an M-60 machine gun on the Cole's fantail away from a second small boat approaching. "With blood still on my face," he said, he was told: "That's the rules of engagement: no shooting unless we're shot at." He added, "In the military, it's like we're trained to hesitate now. If somebody had seen something wrong and shot, he probably would have been court-martialed." Petty Officer Jennifer Kudrick said that if the sentries had fired on the suicide craft "we would have gotten in more trouble for shooting two foreigners than losing 17 American sailors."
And people wonder why America is such a prime target….
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That is part of the problem with this country, we are fighting a war with an unconventual enemy who cuts off the heads of civilians captured for their cause and we are “worried what others might think”
US solders are not peace keepers, they are trained solders trained to kill or be killed.
US solders should not be involved in peace keeping missions.
Petty Officer John Washak said this in reference to his experience with the terrorist bombing of the USS Cole……..
The destroyer's rules of engagement, as approved by the Pentagon, kept its guards from firing upon the small boat loaded with explosives as it neared them without first obtaining permission from the Cole's captain or another officer. Petty Officer John Washak said that right after the blast, a senior chief petty officer ordered him to turn an M-60 machine gun on the Cole's fantail away from a second small boat approaching. "With blood still on my face," he said, he was told: "That's the rules of engagement: no shooting unless we're shot at." He added, "In the military, it's like we're trained to hesitate now. If somebody had seen something wrong and shot, he probably would have been court-martialed." Petty Officer Jennifer Kudrick said that if the sentries had fired on the suicide craft "we would have gotten in more trouble for shooting two foreigners than losing 17 American sailors."
There was a movie made back in 1998 called "The Pentagon Wars" that showed just how screwed up our military's ideas of "testing" their equipment is. The movies taglines were: "They aimed to build the ultimate fighting machine... they missed." and "This story would be funnier if it wasn't true."
Everyone should rent that one at least once.
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How about this one, give it to maximum security prison guards to use in riots along with their lethal weapons. If the nonlethals fail, then take care of business the old fashioned way. Let them report effiectiveness back to the military.
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How about this one, give it to maximum security prison guards to use in riots along with their lethal weapons. If the nonlethals fail, then take care of business the old fashioned way. Let them report effiectiveness back to the military.
Ha ha!
I bet most Americans believe its like that…
Somewhere I have a video of a prison inmate running circles around a crowded chow hall while another inmate with a shank chases him, they guy has already been hit once and the guards just stand in there tower (no one on the floor, that’s just too dangerous) and wait with the “special response team” get geared up which takes over 10 minutes .
You cant shoot dangerous criminals in the process of a riot even if life is at stake……(if you cant tell I’m dripping with sarcasm here….)
If the would of shot the dam scum bag the ACLU would be all over the press and sue……..
If the let the other scum bag get killed they might get sued to failing to protect him………..
They decided to take there chances on the second one…..
I personally believe if you are in prison you should have NO Rights and they should of shot that scum bag in the head………..
I agree what was posted before leave the less lethal testing to be done on the ACLU…………….
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So , let me get this straight…..your Honda has 1.6 liters, whereas my bottle of Mountain Dew has 2?
Change…..it’s what is left after taxes.
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-1988 Ford Mustang GT Convertible, 331 Trick Flow Stroker with a Tremec 3550....oh yea and a 1.6 liter V-TECH motor to work the convertible top.
- 1966 Inline 6……..the pile of parts car!
test it on us citizens first? 
