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Old 04-02-2007   #46 (permalink)
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Er, I think Trip is the revisionist in this case.

What does Amendment 10 have to do with Secession? Interstate Accords/Commerce, etc., are within the Domain of the Federal Gov't.
I doubt that, but I guess some believe if you say something enough times it becomes true…………….

Once again you or missing some very large points because it doesn’t fit into what you believe. The founders gave virtually no power to the federal government, they were afraid of the federal government, there job was mainly to barter treaties with foreign lands and were to keep their nose out of State Government business. Check case law after the constitution was ratified, the highest court in the land was the state supreme courts and they often sited themselves in their decisions because they were the supreme law of the land.

The Supreme Court was only to interpret the constitution that the founders gave warnings that the federal judicial branch should be watched closely or else it would grab power it was never intended to have (which did happened) heck the founders made the supreme court meet in a basement of one of the federal building as it was deemed not important enough to have its own building.

Interstate Accords/Commerce, might be under the jurisdiction of the federal government now but it sure wasn’t when the founders were around and it never was intended that they seize power where they should not of or the US Constitution would never of been ratified.

The 10 amendment has everything to do with it because it gave the south the Constitutional right to exit a union that was trampling the rights of the southern stated in order to favor their own.
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I doubt that, but I guess some believe if you say something enough times it becomes true…………….

Once again you or missing some very large points because it doesn’t fit into what you believe. The founders gave virtually no power to the federal government, they were afraid of the federal government, there job was mainly to barter treaties with foreign lands and were to keep their nose out of State Government business. Check case law after the constitution was ratified, the highest court in the land was the state supreme courts and they often sited themselves in their decisions because they were the supreme law of the land.

The Supreme Court was only to interpret the constitution that the founders gave warnings that the federal judicial branch should be watched closely or else it would grab power it was never intended to have (which did happened) heck the founders made the supreme court meet in a basement of one of the federal building as it was deemed not important enough to have its own building.

Interstate Accords/Commerce, might be under the jurisdiction of the federal government now but it sure wasn’t when the founders were around and it never was intended that they seize power where they should not of or the US Constitution would never of been ratified.

The 10 amendment has everything to do with it because it gave the south the Constitutional right to exit a union that was trampling the rights of the southern stated in order to favor their own.
your logic is flawed.

If the Southern States seceeded legally, the Civil War was still legal, it is NOT illegal for the United States to go to war with a foreign power to extend hegemony.

you may argue that the TERM Civil War is a misnomer, but it has nothing to do with the 10th Amendment. The 10th Amendment grants no rights to foreign powers.
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wow.. its a full on discussion. I like this.
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