Any opinions on which is a better engine. Lets say the 350 from the Corvettes and the 302 or 4.6L in the Mustangs in the last 10 years.
I think it would be an interesting conversation as I am almost positive that the 'STOCK' from the factory ratings for horsepower are higher in the 350's in the Corvette and Camero than they are in the Mustang 302's or 4.6's.
Anyone care to comment on which is a better engine and which company (GM or Ford) has been doing it right for the last 10 years.
When it comes to doing it right (I mean horsepower, handling, etc)
First there are differences between higher horsepower and a better engine.
Of course the 350 will have more horsepower, and torque, than a 302 or 4.6. It has 48 more cubes than a 302 and 69 more than the 4.6 (281ci). If Ford would have used the 351 (5.8L) instead of the 302 (5.0L) in the Mustangs, than it would be a more even comparison
As far as a better engine, my thoughts are the 4.6. The 4.6 uses a overhead cam design. It can rev faster and higher than both the 350 Chevy and the 302 Ford. The 350 and the 302 are old tech. with their push rod valve train. But don't get me wrong I still love them both. And if your on a budget are the way to go. 4.6L are still pretty $$$$$$.
I think the 4.6L is a better design. Overhead cam(s) for high rpm power, and because its a V8 it will have some torque. Ford's problem is that they made the damn thing so small!! I seriously think that this descussion would not be going on if Ford's 4.6L engine was closer to the 350's displacement, like a 5.5L or so. I'm very curious to see how the DOHC 5.0L enigne will do for the Mustang Cobra. Another downside is that the 4.6L is currently expensive to modify.
Chevy's solution to everything..... "put a 350 in it"
j/k the 350 has been a good engine to Chevy. Cheap, and good power/torque. Just old tech, imagine if Chevy adapted DOHC/SOHC cylinder heads to it!!!!
The LS1 V8, which is actually a 346, not a 350, is a pretty wicked engine. It revs to 6k and makes a ton of power up top.
But I agree about the overhead cams, LS1s like to bend pushrods at high rpms
350 three shmifthy. How on. Lets compare apple to apples. Lets say 305 to 302 and leave the 350 to the 351. Yeah Ford doesn't use the 351 for anything but hey lets keep the comparisons closer together. Just a thought.
I would have to agree that the Lt-1 and Ls-1 are good engines. However, the Ford 4.6 Dohc and even 5.0 has made more horsepower per cubic inch compared to the 347 or 350. Take in consideration back into the late 80's and early 90's. The chevy 305 couldnt keep up with the 302. The 302 was more in comparison to the 350. For example the 5.0 had 225 horse and the 350 Iroc had roughly 235-240. A 351w mildy modified would tear up an lt-1 and ls-1. I have also heard the Ls-1 is a VERY expensive engine to purchase.
And its all a bunch of laughs for the Chevy guys until a little 302 or 281 beats their dual 4-barrell carbed 350's.. then the excuse is what?
I actually like Chevy, they've made some good cars over the years... 57 Bel Air, Monte & Impalla SS, 396 Camaro, Nova& Chevelle,etc.. but their downfall will be not modding with the times. Ford bit the Bullet (no pun intended) and went with the OHC import design. while they are expensive to buy & mod, they eventually will have more parts and can squeeze a lot more power out of a smaller block. I agree had they kept the 5.0 and just made that OHC, it would have been closer competition for the Camaros of late, but 5.0 is a torque engine... the 4.6's get higher end HP but due to quicker reving, you lose the bottom end.. so we got a low end motor and a top end motor.. I say good work engineers... now lets get on the ball SVT, and aftermarket manufactuers, lets make some hi-po revver parts. (tina, want your soapbox or should i pass it on?)
Please don't take this wrong way, BUT are we talkin ricer trends for Ford. That would be depressing. High revving no torque motors, Blah!!!! I'll stick with my HO for now.
hay how good are the 95 police crown vick are 4.6 worth working with what can i do to make some deceant h.p.im new at the 4.6 dont know anything about them was thinking a bout building on to play with .what do think is worth messing with, im a fe man.but willing to learn about the 4.6,s..thanks.sam..
I love my mustang but I think the 305/350 chevys have an edge over the ford motors. Im talking in stock form though as once modding gets involved the only real thing holding any one of them back is how deep your pockets are.
What makes you think the 305's had an edge over the ford 302? If I remember correctly.. back in the day when the Mustang 5.0 was rated at 225 horse, the 305 at best was rated at 190. This was even tuned port. The 5.0 had more torque also. Chevy made a good decision by dumping the 305 and sticking to the 350 which at the time made around 235 to 245 at best. So no I dont think the 305/350 was better.
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