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Old 01-23-2002   #1 (permalink)
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Ok everyone,

Professional Head Porting by Bob Sauzek.

Bob has trained under the legendary Mondello and is a very accomplish head porter. He can work wonders with stock E7 heads. And wait till I post the pictures of the work he did on my Trickflows and Performer RPM intake (very sweeet). So give him a try.

Port work starts at $250.00. 25-75 HP gains other services too (intakes, timing cover to water pump, etc.)

Call or E-mail
(805) 717-2821
oildwn@hotmail.com

Tony B.
 
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Old 01-23-2002   #2 (permalink)
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Sweet

Not braging just facts
 
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Old 01-24-2002   #3 (permalink)
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I don't quite know how to answer you.

I do know Bob has been building not assembling Ford engines long before the 80's. And Joe Mondello has been around since the 50's. So are we talking experience here?

It's great you have all your records. And I in no means want to belittle that in anyway. Most people on the street are not looking to break any records. They just want port work that will work on their combo with out breaking their bank.

Bob has nothing to prove. He does excellent work at a very good price. If you want to call do so. If not, well?

Tony B.
 
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Where is he located?
 
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That would probably help!

Bob is located on the Central Coast in California.

Tony B.
 
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JUSTNLX sorry I didn't mean to disrespect you with my post,if I did it wasn't meant to.
I respect all good porters and engine builders,I was just saying you get what you pay for.
I offer all different packages for all types of applications,just because I have records doesn't mean I have to over charge
I wasn't talking about how long they have been doing what ever either.
I worked for Ray Barton when he was in Canada,that explains my records

Sorry again if I came accross in the wrong way<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o">
 
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Tom,

Same here.

All Is good!

Tony B.
 
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Hey guys
I was asking about porting a couple months ago. Eveyone seemed to say not worth bucks.
 
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Fordman,

I think I recall the topic about porting you are mentioning, and with a set up a air flow restricted as Tony's, head porting is his big ticket to horsepower. He has twin turbo's.

Also, some stock heads benefit from match porting and a little combustion chamber clean up, some port flashing clean up, and gasket matched to the intake and exhaust. Some people call these clean ups Full Porting, while in reality they are just match porting. Plus, Full Porting requires someone very skilled in the use of a Flowbench. A huge difference between the two. A huge price difference also. Match porting is great and highly recommended for some better flowing stock heads. But Full Porting is reserved for people who really need it, like Tony. Otherwise it is a waste of money, and in fact may hurt the performance of a mild engine. Anyone can get in with a grinder a polish up some heads and call it ported, however the real pro's skilled in art are worth their weight in gold. At least thats my opinion.

Hope this explains it a little.
 
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Hi there Fordman,

If I remember that thread correctly, wasn't it about porting stock iron heads. I think the advise was the cost of porting would be better spend on a good set of aluminum heads since they would give you better air flow out of the box, as well as better cooling and weight reduction, for about the same price. In Tony's case he is already running a high flow set of aluminum heads. With his current setup still needing better air flow, full port and polishing makes sense and is the only way to go.
 
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Fordman,
I'm surprised that people still think that real good porting(by the right guys)hurts a mild engine!
In fact a 4 stroke motor is a big air pump so why in gods name would porting hurt ?
IMO match porting and cast sanding(mop and glow) is a waist of money .
Some of my customers have gained 6 tenths in the 1/4 mile just with porting (no other mods).
I agree that all out porting on stock heads is a waist but porting aftermarket heads is a plus as long as the head porter knows how to increase flow but keep or improve velocity.
If not thats where you get stories about ported heads hurt mild engines

I don't mean to insult of flame anyone just trying to get things straight.
 
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Not to disagree with you tkmotion, but in a way I guess I do. Volumetric efficiency (VE) is achieved by a number of factors. It is the flow of the heads, not the size of the ports. To large of ports will decrease VE. Other factors include everything that moves air effect VE. Including valve size, exhaust system efficiency, intake system efficiency, throttle body efficiency, Mass Air Flow Sensor efficiency, and of course the heads. A stock engine does not have the efficiency in these other area's to fill and flow large ports and achieve VE. There for, large ports on a stock motor will actually drop VE and the power it produces.

Volumetric efficiency (VE) is used to describe the amount of fuel/air in the cylinder in relation to regular atmospheric pressure.

Just like with carb's, and cam's. Put a 1200 cfm carb on a stock motor and watch what happens. Or .700 lift cam on a stock motor. Sure they move more volume of air. But everything around it cannot move that much air fast enough to get it into the cylinder. Again, you lose VE and the power it produces.

Bigger is not always better. A more general example would be to put a 4'' diameter piston in a "4.50 size hole (cyl.). How much compression is that cylinder going to produce? Sure you have bigger hole moving more air, but all the pressure or compression which makes power leaks back down past the piston. The more packed air you can get into the cylinder, the more power your engine is going to make.

If none of this were true, you wouldn't need a flow bench, you would just hog out the ports on the heads as big as possible and be done with it. Engines are series of components that need to be matched.

I am sure you know these things, I explained it more for the visitors. I personally think that advising people to spend money on porting heads on a other wise stock motor is not helping them. Building race engines for more then 22 years, I have a pretty good idea what quality Head Porting costs and I can think of much wiser investments for a return on Horsepower for a stock.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but what I hear you saying is; take a well performing stock motor, like a 5.0, buy a set of aluminum heads, send them to you for porting, make no other mods, and they will be very happy with the results of the money they spent.

I too want to make things clear. No flaming intended. But I just want to get the facts out in the open. This is a big decission and investment many of the visitors here may consider.
 
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Glen I said in my other post that "a good head porter that knows how to improve velocity"which means better VE
I try to port with stock valve size cause I never believed that bigger is better,If I did I would of never recieved the records I earned
When I say porting I mean the heads and intake,cam will always make things better,and so on....

One of my customers had a 440 in a 70 Charger and ran the best of 12.7 at 110mph.I ported the heads and with no other mods he went 11.97 at 116 mph.The year after we installed a custom grind cam and he ran 11.06 at 125.88 mph
Oh the comp ratio is 10.5 and VE was 125% on the dyno


Tom...www.tkmotion.com...514-920-0094....CFM and Velocity=Power...Who wants some?
 
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Not to ramble on but its the head porters job to port your heads to your set up.In that way you benefit instead of losing but it seems that there are not too many of us left that do so


Tom...www.tkmotion.com....514-920-0094...Power is in the hands of the Head Porter....We make power who wants some?
 
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Hey Guys,
When I ask wayback when. I took the advice and got the alum. heads. Even had bowl stuff done all worked out real well. I even owned up to zero knowledge of what I was doing.(I am still a caveman on this stuff.)
I just saw where it said this guy does wonders on E-7 stock heads. To a caveman stock is stock.
 
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