[Emery]

Stangers

I am an engineer and have gotten to be friends with a Ford engineer who has done some work for Rousch. Get what NASCAR uses!!!!!!!!

Synthetic oils are great: Mobile 1 is a blend of synthetic and petro, so you still have to change it often. Castrol is a highly refined petro so once again you must drain it often.

Does thousands of miles to the life of your stang intrest you (with drain intervals of 25000-35000 miles)....Contact me and I will get you info on the first synthetic oil made. Its the reason M1 and others have come up with syn oils to help grab some of the market.

Save $$ for those expensive afmkt parts. Become an educated consumer and make your own decision.

Emery

emstang@bellsouth.net

[ScottHalliday]

Emery, form your post I take it that Mobil 1 synthetic is not really synthetic but a blend. Am I understanding that correctly because I understood it to be 100% synthetic and I beleive they advertize it as such. I am definately going to dig into this one Thanks for pointing this out and please let me know if I understand you correctly.

[Vortex]

I believe Ive seen 2 Mobil 1 products on our display case, Mobil 1 synthetic, and Synthetic blend, seems kinda redundant to make a new label if its the same stuff.

What weight Mobil 1 are you all using?

[ScottHalliday]

I use 10w30 Mobil 1 Synthetic

[gixxerjoe]

Has any one here use the Amsoil oil, and if so do you like it compared to other synthetic brands?

Joe

[Vortex]

Havent used it my self but the guy at my local speed shop told me racers use it all the time and after 100,000 miles, still see the cross hatch in the cylinders.
I dont know about all that, but It sounds like its just a race oil. I havent seen physical tests on it tho.

[gixxerjoe]

Interesting....guess we have to get some more results from people who actually use Amsoil.....but is seems like a lot of guys here like Mobil 1 plenty!

Joe

[Emery]

Amsoil has several formulas. Some are designed for racing. The down and dirty facts are that Amsoil started their company in 1972, a retired 50-60 Air force pilot that knew about the oils used in jet engines he flew and knew that we could use the benifits in our daily drivers.

Ever since companies are spending tons of $ to create their own type of synthetics. All have been proven (by the tests required by the Fed's) to be inferior. Mobile 1 is where Amsoil was 30 years ago!

Ex: Four ball Wear Test (ASTM D4172) @ 60kg pressure, 150 deg C, 1800 RPM for 1 hour

Amsoil series 2000: wear scar of.................0.440 mm
Havoiline formula 3:............................... 0.713 mm
Valvoline synthetic: ...............................0.741 mm
Castrol Syntec:..................................... 0.757 mm (my previous favorite before I learned the snow job oil companies are doing)
QS synthetic blend:.................................0.79 mm
MOBILE 1 TRI-SYNTHETIC:........................0.922 mm

The worst award goes to Mobile 1. And yes it is a "tri-blend" ask Mobile 1 what is in it. Ask them if you can use an extended drain interval. And yes they have a new formula that is out called "Super Syn" that is just Tri-syn with a new friction additive.

The fact, Amsoil series 2000 is a warrantied 35,000 mile true synthetic (and yes it it the "racing blend" used alot of Nascar teams).

I am a licensed engineer, I have learned to look at the numbers and make decisions based on them....like the following

NOACK Volatility test (March 2000), on the non-racing Amsoil formula.

% weight loss
6.76%........Amsoil
11.53%......Castrol GTX
12.27%......QS 4x4 Syn blend
14.79%......Valvoline All climate
14.98%......Mobile

Become an informed consumer. DONT TAKE MY WORD FOR IT...TRY IT FOR YOURSELF. Dont spend $$ on something that the big companies spend alot of money trying to make you think it is something it isnt and you drain out in 2 months.


Emery.

P.S. isnt every drive with your stangs a race?

Check out my site and click on the Mobile1 vs Amsoil link for more info

I am not trying to SELL anyone on this product....just opening your eyes to help you realize what I have......Big oil manufactureres are out for one thing $$$$. How much can they make. If we can send men to the moon we shure can make oils that last more than 3000 miles....but that wouldn't be economical for oil companies or the companies that service the vechicles that the oil wears at a much higher rate.

[GTRaptor]

Emery: good info you have provided here, i will definately look at Amsoil for my next oil change due next month.

[Vortex]

Im not doubting you in any way but its rather hard to swallow that Mobil 1 that comes in Ferraris from the factory is worse than a valvo syntec... valvo is the one known for making Discount Auto Parts conventional...
Just my rants... but im sure they aren't just padding the numbers.. theres gotta be truth to it.

[AirbornePB]

I myself use royal purple

[fvpnt0pony92]

the guy at my local speed shop told me racers use it all the time and after 100,000 miles, still see the cross hatch in the cylinders.

this would have a lot to do with the blocks and not just entirely the oil though.

[daddyman2002]

98 4.6 gt 44000 miles tried royal purpule im sold improved gas mls horse power not alot but could tell for sure just a stang lover sharen

[fine89lx]

I have been running Mobil 1 synthetic 10W30 since day one in my Mustang. The oil stays very clean after a few thousand miles. It does get low on the dipstick after hard driving at frequent high speed bursts ie. 90 mph or high speed for a few hours which is normal. I change the oil very frequently whether it needs it or not. I also use or try to use the Motorcraft FL1HP oil filter. I have not seen AMSOIL available here, so I cannot use it. I'd say to spend the 30 or 40 bucks and change it frequently. regardless of manufacturer or type. It a small price to pay compared to a rebuild.