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Unread 07-12-2010   #1 (permalink)
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It sounds like the gearheads at AmericanMuscle were tickled pink when they got their hands on the 2011 Mustang GT. But as much as they loved their new car, they just had to give it a little personal touch, via the Bama Custom Tuning Team and a couple of prototype parts. The result? Gains of more than 25 horsepower and 30 foot-pounds of torque at the rear wheels.

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Nice gains! I am glad to see that Ford left some potential in this motor.

I am always disappointed however that nobody will ever take a stock car, and just tune it with no bolt ons at all. I understand that if they did that and saw nearly as good of gains with just a tune as with a tune and a cai, then they couldn't sell their product as easily, but it still irritates me when a cai is advertised as gaining 22 hp when in fact it may only be gaining 1 or 2, and the tune is doing the rest of the work.

Just once, I want to see a company start with a 2011 GT, put 91/93 octane fuel in it, run it until the PCM is advancing the timing as far as it will go stock, then dyno it for a baseline. THEN, load a new tune, tweaking timing, AF ratio, and cam timing - these are the only things that will gain or lose power in the tune, and the only reason a CAI needs a tune is to adjust the MAF table for the change in MAF housing diameter. So dyno it with just a tweaked tune and compare to the base. NOW, install the CAI and adjust the MAF transfer so it is running the same AF ratio as the last tune with the stock intake, and dyno again. This will tell you what the gains from the free flowing filter and larger intake tube actually are, without the gains from the tune clouding up the issue.

Again, I understand this would be counter-productive for a retail organization, since it would probably show a very low value in the bolt on product versus just tweaking the tune. Then again, it could show the intake is a severe restriction on the stock vehicle and that the bolt on CAI has a huge value. The same goes for other bolt on's like headers, throttle bodies, cams, delete plates, and underdrive pulleys. Knowing what kind of gains you can expect from any of these products once you already have a custom tune would go a long way toward the decision.

As a consumer, I just want to know straight up what the best bang for the buck is.
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Nice in deed!
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It sounds like the gearheads at AmericanMuscle were tickled pink when they got their hands on the 2011 Mustang GT. But as much as they loved their new car, they just had to give it a little personal touch, via the Bama Custom Tuning Team and a couple of prototype parts. The result? Gains of more than 25 horsepower and 30 foot-pounds of torque at the rear wheels.

Read More and Check Out the Video...

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Is'nt the horsepower on the 2011 5.0 supposed to be in the 412 range?
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Is'nt the horsepower on the 2011 5.0 supposed to be in the 412 range?
Odds are that is 'wheel HP and TQ' and remember every dyno car and day can yield different 'numbers' the idea is the percentage gained from the tune on that car, that day and on that same dyno.
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Is'nt the horsepower on the 2011 5.0 supposed to be in the 412 range?
Ford rates their cars at the flywheel. Take off about 15-20%ish to the wheels. So those numbers are accurate.
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5.0 Magazine got 368 hp, Motor Trend got 378, Breenspeed got 392 with a CAI/tune. 363 hp sure seems reasonable.
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We recently got 395RWHP out of her SAE corrected on our in-house Dynojet 224xLC. This was with 4.10 gears, too. Airaid CAI/93 Octane/Stock Manifolds/Off-Road X-Pipe/Cat-back Exhaust. That's it!

We also threw a nitrous express 100 shot on there and pulled out something like 480RWHP and 545RWTQ I believe. And went 10.93 @ 125MPH with it. 11.68 was the numbers without nitrous. It's a beast. Stock transmission, stock torque converter.

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Nice gains! I am glad to see that Ford left some potential in this motor.

I am always disappointed however that nobody will ever take a stock car, and just tune it with no bolt ons at all. I understand that if they did that and saw nearly as good of gains with just a tune as with a tune and a cai, then they couldn't sell their product as easily, but it still irritates me when a cai is advertised as gaining 22 hp when in fact it may only be gaining 1 or 2, and the tune is doing the rest of the work.

Just once, I want to see a company start with a 2011 GT, put 91/93 octane fuel in it, run it until the PCM is advancing the timing as far as it will go stock, then dyno it for a baseline. THEN, load a new tune, tweaking timing, AF ratio, and cam timing - these are the only things that will gain or lose power in the tune, and the only reason a CAI needs a tune is to adjust the MAF table for the change in MAF housing diameter. So dyno it with just a tweaked tune and compare to the base. NOW, install the CAI and adjust the MAF transfer so it is running the same AF ratio as the last tune with the stock intake, and dyno again. This will tell you what the gains from the free flowing filter and larger intake tube actually are, without the gains from the tune clouding up the issue.

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That would be so amazing. This is exactly what I have been wanting people do since I started thinking about mods for my car.
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very nice! can't wait to start modding mine
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