[grimmreaper1221]

ok, a friend of my has a 2001 Ford Cobra. he's about to supercharge it. but cant make his mind up. he's going with sither the kenne bell supchrg. or the whipple. ut he wants to make sure hes going with the right choice. hes dropping about 9grand on this so he wants to make sure its the right choice!! so based on past experience on these brands, could you please help my friend out with his decision. thank you very much.

[04KenneBellGT]

Im not sure if whipple has one out for the older cobras or gt'2, but there is one out for the 03/04 cobras. They are basically the same thing, just different companies. I got a KB on my 04 GT and i love it.

[grimmreaper1221]

Originally Posted by 04KenneBellGT

Im not sure if whipple has one out for the older cobras or gt'2, but there is one out for the 03/04 cobras. They are basically the same thing, just different companies. I got a KB on my 04 GT and i love it.

yea they have 'em... he cant make up his mind. becuase its so much money, he really wants to get both sides of the story. personally im thinking KB just cuz it comes with everything, but he was recommened to a shop that said if he gets the whipple, they will order @ MSRP and install it for next to nothing. i'll keep everyone posted though. thanx for the info.

[bigfrank]

I have a Kenne Bell on my 93 Cobra and love it. Mine is non-intercooled, but for your buddies 2001, I think he can get an intercooled kit, which would be wicked on his car.

Frank

[sbfcasey]

Originally Posted by grimmreaper1221

yea they have 'em... he cant make up his mind. becuase its so much money, he really wants to get both sides of the story. personally im thinking KB just cuz it comes with everything, but he was recommened to a shop that said if he gets the whipple, they will order @ MSRP and install it for next to nothing. i'll keep everyone posted though. thanx for the info.

I am also looking into purchasing a charger and have been to the Whipple web site and have not seen any kit for that year of cobra which is the 2001 that i have. I was to a performance shop today and indicated that I was interested in the KB, they tried to put me onto a Whipple but then couldn't find any package either like the one KB offers. I think KB might be correct in what they say on their web page that dealers will try to sell you something else b/c there is little profit for them off the KB chargers because they are a Factory Direct to thier customers with regards to sales. Let me know if you find a package compaeable to the KB 9psi one that isn't just a local guy putting different pieces together.

[2Manystangs]

Big mistake, for the same $9000 you can buy a full terminator engine and swap it in...the problem with the early cobras is the short block cannot take much boost as they don't have forged internals; with terminator motor, it's all ready to go! (lots of them on Ebay) I have a kenne bell running 6psi, it's ok, but for the money I would either do the swap, or build the crap out of a NA motor and be better off with more power...similarly you could sell the car you have add the $9K and have the whole terminator car! Probably the best option

[sbfcasey]

Originally Posted by 2Manystangs

Big mistake, for the same $9000 you can buy a full terminator engine and swap it in...the problem with the early cobras is the short block cannot take much boost as they don't have forged internals; with terminator motor, it's all ready to go! (lots of them on Ebay) I have a kenne bell running 6psi, it's ok, but for the money I would either do the swap, or build the crap out of a NA motor and be better off with more power...similarly you could sell the car you have add the $9K and have the whole terminator car! Probably the best option

So i should buy a terminator engine which would be approx 100hp less to the rear wheels than the I buy? I don't disagree that it is a great motor but if i want to get where i am going to get with the KB i would have to buy a motor, install it, and do mods to get to the HP that i will get with the KB kit. Might be the right idea for some, but I only have 40k pampered miles on my 01 cobra and know the engine has not been abused. Have not even done a burn out with my car. I think i will stay with my decision

[stang06girl]

Originally Posted by grimmreaper1221

hes dropping about 9grand on this so he wants to make sure its the right choice!!

That sounds about $2,000 $3,000 too high. I looked at KB's price list, and the intercooled kits are $6300 to $6900.

The Whipple systems should be about the same.

[sbfcasey]

Originally Posted by stang06girl

That sounds about $2,000 $3,000 too high. I looked at KB's price list, and the intercooled kits are $6300 to $6900.

The Whipple systems should be about the same.

But then you need it installed and tuned so it would be about 9K. I have gotten quotes from about 5 different tuners and they are all in the 9k range the only differances are the gauges that they selected or reccomended that made the costs different

[2oo5GT]

Originally Posted by sbfcasey

So i should buy a terminator engine which would be approx 100hp less to the rear wheels than the I buy? I don't disagree that it is a great motor but if i want to get where i am going to get with the KB i would have to buy a motor, install it, and do mods to get to the HP that i will get with the KB kit. Might be the right idea for some, but I only have 40k pampered miles on my 01 cobra and know the engine has not been abused. Have not even done a burn out with my car. I think i will stay with my decision

With $9K, you could buy a Terminator engine, install and tuned. Might be able to get a few mods which put most around 450-460rwhp. You could have that with the KB and the 01 motor but it would be on borrowed time. 450rwhp would be max as i've seen and stock block 03-04 Cobra's are pushing up to 800rwhp. Most get a whipple or KB or Turbo and pushing in the mid 600's though but you do get those who push the limits and the motor can handle it. I would forge your 01 Cobra and then SC it if anything.

[2Manystangs]

Listen you can buy the kit for the list price, then you have to pay to have it installed, tuned and the fuel system upgraded if you want it done "right", now you are at about $7500 for a Kenne Bell or Whipple, now the problem no one seems to realize is that for the small gain (approx 90-100 hp) you are out $7500, that is the max that money will every produce on that car because of the short block not being "forged"...now take the same $7500 and you swap in a full terminator engine and port the blower which will put out an easy 500hp all day long with no reliability issues..go sell your stock engine and now you are up 200 hp for about $5K...otherwise sell the whole car and just buy the terminator...still the best option, it comes with 6 spd and IRS (I'm not talking out my rear end here, I know, I've done all this and speak from experience, I'm now having to buy new heads/intercooler and a new lower or rebuild mine (another $4+5000 once it's done) so I can get another 2-300hp out of my engine by turning up the boost to 15-20...ahh a one man economic stimulus plan.

[98BlackGT]

Okay, plain and simple, you need to put a forged motor in that car before you go adding a KB or a Whipple. I've been down this road, and for $9k, you're not going to get everything you need.

You'd be better of getting a Procharger kit, running 9psi, and put that on your stock motor. It would be good for about 450-465rwhp.

[2Manystangs]

You put any supercharger on a non forged short block and run 9psi and get ready to watch the engine explode...those frickin "powder cracked" rods and cast pistons just cannot take much boost, at 450 you are on the edge of disaster.