Ok, so here is my story. I have a 2002 V6 5-spd. Right now I am in the process of building up the engine and car. Before I start saving for the power adder I will have the following done to my car:
CAI
Pro 5.0 shifter
Steeda clutch adjuster kit
raised gas pedal
GT take offs
3.73 gears with t-lok
aluminum driveshaft
UD Pulley
Morana street and strip heads
Morana 1.8 rra's
Morana intake
Morana Throttle body
Morana gaskets
Morana windage tray/stud girdel
Morana cam
kenny brown level 5 suspention package
wilwood brakes
17 x 9 ultra light rims with nitto 555's
After I have all of this done I will be looking for a power adder. I know Nitros is fast easy and cheap but in the long run, with filling up bottles it can cost more then a turbo or a supercharger. I was always more in favor of a turbo over a supercharger but lately it seems like the combination of a turbo on a 2002 V6 that getts driven daily is very very very low. So I am starting to consider a S/C. I want to know what you guys think and what you would do. I am willing to make a kit piece by piece if I that is the only way to get a turbo.
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Home made CAI, Pro 5.0, Steeda clutch adjuster kit, Raised gass pedal, GT take off's, white gauge face, Aluminum pedals, Aluminum driveshaft, underdrive pully, 03 cobra IRS with bushings and rear steer kit, 10th ann. Cobra rims wrapped in 275 Eagle F1's, 3/8 intake spacer.
I think a supercharger would be cheaper than a turbo on your particular car. But, I wouldn't even dream of putting a power adder on your car without some forged internals. Your already making some pretty serious power with your stuff from Morana. If you add a supercharger to that, you would easily be pushing 350 hp and the stock internals can't handle that.
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2008 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner SR5 Reg Cab
2.7 4 banger
No mods (yet...)
I new I was going to forget to add that at the end:dun:
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Home made CAI, Pro 5.0, Steeda clutch adjuster kit, Raised gass pedal, GT take off's, white gauge face, Aluminum pedals, Aluminum driveshaft, underdrive pully, 03 cobra IRS with bushings and rear steer kit, 10th ann. Cobra rims wrapped in 275 Eagle F1's, 3/8 intake spacer.
come on guys, I know someone has to have an opinion
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Home made CAI, Pro 5.0, Steeda clutch adjuster kit, Raised gass pedal, GT take off's, white gauge face, Aluminum pedals, Aluminum driveshaft, underdrive pully, 03 cobra IRS with bushings and rear steer kit, 10th ann. Cobra rims wrapped in 275 Eagle F1's, 3/8 intake spacer.
I don't know about the nitrous being more expencive. In my area a new sc kit goes for about $5000 for a good one (less for some el-cheapo sc'c). While a Nos kit goes for less than $600. At $6 per pound, that's a lot of nitrous.
PS: go with the supercharger or turbos. The pros/cons I find are a little beter.
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Black,79 Mustang mostly carbon fiber/kevlar body, M-2300-k brake kit, full roll cage, maximum motorsport suspension, custom geared 6 speed, 2 inch rear fender flares, 1 inch front, motor being built (no eta). Looks like the Mad Max interseptor and weighs about 1800lbs w/o motor (450hp 351w installed to move the car around)
Black, 82 Capri RS 5.0L, B303, 1.7 rockers, World 180 heads, +150hp N.O.S, Turbo coupe rear end, T-56(tremec tko would be beter), 80 cobra nose
IT depends on how you drive your car do you want more power throughout the rev range or just mid to top end for a daily driver I know which way I'd be looking (but maybe I have blinkers)
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Wimblton white 66 coupe C code 289 auto
97 Jeep Wrangler 4.0 auto, lift ,winch,33's etc
04 Holden VY SS 5.7 auto (wifes)
88 KLR 250
DISCLAMER:
Please feel free to ignor all advice/information offered
I could be wrong...... I have been before.
The biggest thing is that I can still drive it daily with no problems and that my MPG don't drop below 16. Right now I am getting about 21-22 so I definatly have some room to play with. I have also got in contact with a guy up in Canada working on a company that is going to be making turbo kits for the v6 only meaning race, street, and twin setups so I am looking forward to seeing how all that goes with him and them next summer invest.
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Home made CAI, Pro 5.0, Steeda clutch adjuster kit, Raised gass pedal, GT take off's, white gauge face, Aluminum pedals, Aluminum driveshaft, underdrive pully, 03 cobra IRS with bushings and rear steer kit, 10th ann. Cobra rims wrapped in 275 Eagle F1's, 3/8 intake spacer.
Ponyboy, ATI (Accessible Technologies Inc.) makes a supercharger for your car. I think with a stock v6 and the super charger alone it makes 345 hp at the crank. Might want to check that out.
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97 Cobra #777 Blk/Blk
ProCharger P600B 7psi w/3 core intercooler, off road x-pipe, flows, pro kit, oil separator mod.
Holy...... 345hp on stock engine parts??????????? I will take a look at them though. Thanks.
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Home made CAI, Pro 5.0, Steeda clutch adjuster kit, Raised gass pedal, GT take off's, white gauge face, Aluminum pedals, Aluminum driveshaft, underdrive pully, 03 cobra IRS with bushings and rear steer kit, 10th ann. Cobra rims wrapped in 275 Eagle F1's, 3/8 intake spacer.
Yeah, but on that TT kit the boost is way up there....12-14psi I think.
I am buying a Supercharger for my 2000 V6. I have done a great deal of research on the subject. I looked at the TT, different SC kits, and the most solid kit and reputation lies with Vortech on my application.
I am looking at the SQ trim kit from Vortech. They claim an extra 85hp from this kit. PSI runs around 8.5-9. I'm not sure if that is RWHP or flywheel. Most likely flywheel.
Then I'm going to intercool it. which almost eliminates detonation, making it more streetable, longer life, and....oh yeah....around 20hp more HP.
You should check out this thread for more of my opinion and a few links.
Originally posted by NoSlow5oh Ponyboy, ATI (Accessible Technologies Inc.) makes a supercharger for your car. I think with a stock v6 and the super charger alone it makes 345 hp at the crank. Might want to check that out.
That's smart of you to bring up ATI Procharger because they are
more reliable and more effective than any other supercharger on the
market today if you install the kit properly.Procharger kits require no
discharge/recharge of A/C,don't need to relocate A/C,don't need to
modify or purchase A/C lines,NO need to punch a hole in the oil pan,
and optional if you want bigger fuel injectors.There is two kits for 99+
V6's the HO Intercooled system (7psi.) and HO Intercooled Tuner Kit
(11psi.). The 7psi. makes 290HP and the 11psi. makes 345HP and this
is ALL at the crank baby! With Procharger you will not detonate if your
air,fuel,and tune is correct and the kit is installed correctly.I highly
recommed ATI over any S/C built today because ATI runs cooler than
any non-intercooled on the market today.I heard lot's of horrible
stories about folks running oil feed superchargers including deonating
stories about vortec.Ponyboy, the most reliable way is supercharging
for street driving never turbocharging.Let us know what you really
plan on doing.
Originally posted by 96TT That's smart of you to bring up ATI Procharger because they are
more reliable and more effective than any other supercharger on the
market today if you install the kit properly.Procharger kits require no
discharge/recharge of A/C,don't need to relocate A/C,don't need to
modify or purchase A/C lines,NO need to punch a hole in the oil pan,
and optional if you want bigger fuel injectors.There is two kits for 99+
V6's the HO Intercooled system (7psi.) and HO Intercooled Tuner Kit
(11psi.). The 7psi. makes 290HP and the 11psi. makes 345HP and this
is ALL at the crank baby! With Procharger you will not detonate if your
air,fuel,and tune is correct and the kit is installed correctly.I highly
recommed ATI over any S/C built today because ATI runs cooler than
any non-intercooled on the market today.I heard lot's of horrible
stories about folks running oil feed superchargers including deonating
stories about vortec.Ponyboy, the most reliable way is supercharging
for street driving never turbocharging.Let us know what you really
plan on doing.
You're making some blanket statements that apply to any supercharged set-up. Number one, any sc set-up can be reliable if installed properly. If your air-fuel is set-up properly from a dynotune, you shouldn't detonate with any sc set-up. Remember, it's all in the tune. The intercooler simply allows one to run more timing with the cooler charge entering the intake. Vortec superchargers have one big thing going for them, a solid reputation for reliability. Obviously nothings perfect but look at the many threads of ATI's leak problems with their self contained series. I'm not saying ATI makes bad blowers, I almost bought one because of the many positives I've read about their performance. Also, if done properly, an oil feed from your car's tank is very reliable. My gear driven Powerdyne XB-1 had no problems what so ever running off my car's engine oil due to the fact that it was set-up correctly. The point of all this is simply this, install the sc of your choice properly (have an expert assist if needed), tune the car properly, and you should have hours of fun running the piss out of your car. I just don't recommend one sc company over another since they have their strong points and all can be made to run hard. Good luck.
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There are only three things the copilot should ever say:
1. Nice landing, Sir.
2. I'll buy the first round.
3. I'll take the ugly one.
Ahhh! but the ATI will allow you to sell the car or the blower separately.
With the Vortech or powerdyne, you're wedded for good.
My downstairs neighbor had an ATI with no leak problems.
Whenever gas goes up, he takes the system off. Whenever he wants to run, he puts it back on.
He's got two chips (but with the new diablo chip, he'd be able to run three separate programs from one chip) for running stock, and for running with the charger.
I'd recommend the ATI to anyone.
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Woe to him who builds his palace by unrighteousness,his upper rooms by injustice,making his countrymen work for nothing...Does it make you a king to have more and more cedar?Did not your father have food and drink?He did what was right and just,so all went well with him. He defended the cause of the poor and needy,and so all went well...But your eyes and your heart are set only on dishonest gain,on shedding innocent blood and on oppression and extortion. Jer 22:13, 15-17