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I have a CAI in my car already and am ordering some small stuff to make it faster but I was wondering about Nitrous I see it is on americanmuscle.com and I know this sounds dumb but I have no clue about how it works..... Can someone explain how it works after its installed and how bad is it on your engine??

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it goes in with your air mixture to burn hotter and faster makeing more HP. its an oxidiser, or how ever you spell it.

i been doing research on it too.

is this something u cna bolt on and go... or would u need like new pistons to hold the power?
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it goes in with your air mixture to burn hotter and faster makeing more HP. its an oxidiser, or how ever you spell it.

i been doing research on it too.

is this something u cna bolt on and go... or would u need like new pistons to hold the power?
It says its a bolt on part but I don't think the car as is can handle 55 to 100 more hp and thats what I want to know but to help you a little bit from what I have seen its bolt on
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There are a bunch of guys running with the 75 hp jets, with very little problems, the 100's can be used, but I would be carefull and definately use a window switch, and use it sparingly. The beauty of using no2 vs any other power adder, is that you only put the extra stress on your motor when you are racing vs the constant extra boost (and strain)that a s/c or turbo can exert on a motor. IMO a nitrous motor can last even longer than your typical s/c or turbo motor, just because of this fact. Anything over the 100hp pills, and you are rolling the dice on weather you will have a swiss cheeze block at the end of the 1320.
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There are a bunch of guys running with the 75 hp jets, with very little problems, the 100's can be used, but I would be carefull and definately use a window switch, and use it sparingly. The beauty of using no2 vs any other power adder, is that you only put the extra stress on your motor when you are racing vs the constant extra boost (and strain)that a s/c or turbo can exert on a motor. IMO a nitrous motor can last even longer than your typical s/c or turbo motor, just because of this fact. Anything over the 100hp pills, and you are rolling the dice on weather you will have a swiss cheeze block at the end of the 1320.
ok I am still kind of confused.... how do you adjust how much you no2 you give the car? I don't want to ruin the car I just want to be able to show off sometimes and I see people have it spray when they are sitting in park how does that work???
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ok I am still kind of confused.... how do you adjust how much you no2 you give the car? I don't want to ruin the car I just want to be able to show off sometimes and I see people have it spray when they are sitting in park how does that work???
different sized jets allow more or less N in. thats what makes power more N more power!

the spray is blow off, makeing sure no air is in the line for power on demand!
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different sized jets allow more or less N in. thats what makes power more N more power!

the spray is blow off, makeing sure no air is in the line for power on demand!
ok so does the kit on americanmuscle.com give you different sized jets? and how do I set it up to spray a certain spot for a custom look along with the power?
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im not sure it says 55-100 with included jets so i assume its 55 75 100 i dunno

u jsut change them. like changeing a pressure washer tip... ones bigger allows more
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dood, the "spray" you are reffering to, is the purge, and is not necessary, just an added safeguard. If you are going for a "look" then don't waste your money on the whole system, just hook up a co2 bottle to a sylanoid and make your own little fake purge system. while I agree, that the nitrous purge can be intimidating, that probably shoudn't be your first concern. If it is, you are doing it for the waaaaaaaay wrong reasons.
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dood, the "spray" you are reffering to, is the purge, and is not necessary, just an added safeguard. If you are going for a "look" then don't waste your money on the whole system, just hook up a co2 bottle to a sylanoid and make your own little fake purge system. while I agree, that the nitrous purge can be intimidating, that probably shoudn't be your first concern. If it is, you are doing it for the waaaaaaaay wrong reasons.
the look is the last thing I want I just want to add that for added fun I want to get the 75 hp more with a press of a button. I just don't want to get it if it will ruin my engine I will only use the purge if I actually can use the no2 it wouldn't make sense to do the purge and have nothing to back it up I only asked because I want it on top of no2 and didn't know if I would have to pay for other stuff
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the look is the last thing I want I just want to add that for added fun I want to get the 75 hp more with a press of a button. I just don't want to get it if it will ruin my engine I will only use the purge if I actually can use the no2 it wouldn't make sense to do the purge and have nothing to back it up I only asked because I want it on top of no2 and didn't know if I would have to pay for other stuff
Most kits won't come with a purge kit, bottle warmer, or "window" switch. All of wich will complete the setup. The purge clears the lines of bubbles of "other than no2" (air if you will) the bottle warmer keeps the pressure at a constant, and the window switch keeps your nitrous from activating until a certain RPM therefore protecting your engine from going BOOM. The kit, and all the accesories will cost you somewhere in the ballpark of $1000-$1500 for everything. Most nitrous kits are easy enuf for the shadetree mechanic to install, and in the end, it is waaaaaay cheaper than a supercharger or tubo, and the ultimate power gains remain about the same. The drawbacks? if you do it without ensuring that your fuel/air mixture is perfect, your engine can go BOOM. (but then again, same applies with a turbo or S/C sooooooooo) My money is being saved for the nitrous as we speak. I had a supercharger and sold it to get my rear end (and to keep my rear end out of debt ) but I want the juice baaaaad.
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but what kinds of things on the inside would need beefed up?
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Most kits won't come with a purge kit, bottle warmer, or "window" switch. All of wich will complete the setup. The purge clears the lines of bubbles of "other than no2" (air if you will) the bottle warmer keeps the pressure at a constant, and the window switch keeps your nitrous from activating until a certain RPM therefore protecting your engine from going BOOM. The kit, and all the accesories will cost you somewhere in the ballpark of $1000-$1500 for everything. Most nitrous kits are easy enuf for the shadetree mechanic to install, and in the end, it is waaaaaay cheaper than a supercharger or tubo, and the ultimate power gains remain about the same. The drawbacks? if you do it without ensuring that your fuel/air mixture is perfect, your engine can go BOOM. (but then again, same applies with a turbo or S/C sooooooooo) My money is being saved for the nitrous as we speak. I had a supercharger and sold it to get my rear end (and to keep my rear end out of debt ) but I want the juice baaaaad.
Ok thanks and yea the price is what I like and I won't wear out my engine all the time like a supercharger i believe does I actually can choose who I will give in to and race and who I won't I can spend the 3000 that I would have to add to the price on other stuff and skip the sc but like 05horse says what do we need to beef up so that we make it safe for us to use?
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u can run it on a stock motor. i wouldnt run over 100, be more like 75 shot for me. the main problem is people dont know waht theyre buying or how to use it. a lot of guys think u can spray whenever you feel the need. safely, thats not true. theres rules to it. first of all, get a window switch controller. iv seen a ton of blown motors and intakes that have been blown clear off because spray comes too soon too fast. with a window switch, you can specify when the spray comes on and when it goes off. secondly, you need a heck of a good tune. theres so many variables that can affect your car with nitrous, and a good tune will save you a lot of money. never spray off the line nor at the top of 5th..6th gear whatever. thats a sure way to blow somethin through the hood. yes, nitrous is cheaper than s/c or t/c, but it comes with limitations and danger you dont get with other f/i systems. itll get u down the track fast, but its nowhere near as safe as u think unless you know exactly what youre doing.
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u can run it on a stock motor. i wouldnt run over 100, be more like 75 shot for me. the main problem is people dont know waht theyre buying or how to use it. a lot of guys think u can spray whenever you feel the need. safely, thats not true. theres rules to it. first of all, get a window switch controller. iv seen a ton of blown motors and intakes that have been blown clear off because spray comes too soon too fast. with a window switch, you can specify when the spray comes on and when it goes off. secondly, you need a heck of a good tune. theres so many variables that can affect your car with nitrous, and a good tune will save you a lot of money. never spray off the line nor at the top of 5th..6th gear whatever. thats a sure way to blow somethin through the hood. yes, nitrous is cheaper than s/c or t/c, but it comes with limitations and danger you dont get with other f/i systems. itll get u down the track fast, but its nowhere near as safe as u think unless you know exactly what youre doing.
Ok see thats why I am back and forth about getting a sc or tc because people say it hurt your engine and so I started looking at no2 but now its kind of scary sounding because I don't have the money to replace an engine if its blown...... If I get a sc or tc what problem can I have if I am just driving the speed limits not accelerating to fast but every once in a while I let her loose or at a track to get a 1/4 time maybe 1 or 2 times in a year...... basically if I can get 300-350hp I will be happy that is my goal no matter now I get it I want to get it and be safe driving the car...... a s/c or t/c needs what to be safe on an automatic?? no2 needs nothing other than a tune and to use it smart not every time u hit the pedal right??
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