[ncw8lifter]

Looking at the SC/Turbo debate I cant help to wonder. The Guys that I saw that had turbos on there mustangs had 5.0 older mustangs.
Im currently looking for a S/C. I have a 4.6 GT and I havent seen anyone up here with a Turbo on a 96+ GT. I found one place that sells
them and it was between 5-6000 BUCKS!!!. I mean cmon I can get a SC for 3200 bucks. That is a big price difference. You guys gotta look at that. Not everyone has that kind of money. My point is if you got a older mustang like Justin and can get a Turbo Kit for $4000 bucks GO FOR IT! I would. But if you got a newer Mustang 4.6 you have to dish out close to 6000 bucks for one thats a whole different ball game. (unless ur well off)
And I dont think the guys with the 95 below 5.0 realize that.
Now dont get me wrong I had a turbo car before I love them!!! If you can find a turbo kit for 4000 bucks for my 96 Mustang Id jump on it.
But 6000 is a long cry from 3200. To rich for my blood right now..

[cheesegodbob]

this is fun. I think I might get a few good answers here.

I have a 2.3L '89. I have been considering both turbo and super but haven't been able to make up my mind yet. I'm not a racer, I just demand power, but I need gas mileage. can anyone offer tips on this matter? the engine doesn't run right now, and the pistons, rings, rods, cam, etc. will be replaced with performance components before I turbo or sc anything.

and if anyone says anything about v8s or big blocks, I'll drive a big block v-8 into a tiny rear garage, whether it fits or not. )

I need gas mileage. I am po like that.

[STONECOLD]

Wow, there is tons of good info here!
Im gald I stumbled on this thread, I have a question for those of ya with a SC. Im planning on buying a Vortech later this year, I have a 95GT. I noticed that for my year car Vortech offers an aftercooler, but im not sure I wan to get it because it would require he battery to be relocated to the trunk. What I was wondering is can I use an intercooler from a diffrent company (paxton, pro-charger) with the Vortech?

Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.

[JUSTNLX]

Rob (cheesegodbob)

I'm going to say turbo. Not because I have one (oops two ), but because you have a 2.3 banger.

Here are three reasons,
You could get a turbo or engine right from a Turbo Coupe, SVO or a Turbo GT.

A SC will take more hp to operate than a turbo, and being a banger you’re already down on power.

And you might even get an increase in mpg. Mine went from around 23 to 27 mpg's, after the novelty wore off and I drove more civil of course. By the way, that’s a good argument for a V8. Put a turbo on it!

[EvilTwstedTwins]

Turbos will ALWAYS make more HP then a suprecharger will ever think about making. I do not understand why 'most' people start threads like these, this is a war that will never end kind of like death and taxes it will never stop. Also why saleen and other super car builders dont use turbos and turbo kits is they are not C.A.R.B. The only aftermarket turbo companie ever to get a CARB # is Incon, and they are no longer in business. I'd also like to say that spyder doesnt know all the facts about Turbos and what it takes to Turbocharge a Mustang.







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[mstng1320]

I would have to say turbo , it is the cheapest out of the two. You can use all junkyard parts if you want and havejust as much power as a charger. If tou dont think turbos are good just look at what Gutridge is doing in drag radial. 8,s on a single turbo and drag radials , I rest my case!!!!!!!!

[chris99232]

OMG!!! People give it a rest... Each has there own advantages and disadvatages. The main thing is to do your homework! Make sure you know exactly what you are wanting to get out of your car and how you want to do it. Then recheck it again! I don't know about you guys, but I can't aford a new motor. Take your time, do it right. If you can only aford one part at a time, so be it. don't install one part at a time. It's inevitable that you'll "F" something up. Just wait till you have all the parts to do it right. Wether that be a turbo or a supercharger. Oh yeah, by the way, "is it even possible to supercharge a four cyl?" umm... yes very, have you ever heard of Jackson Racing, Neuspeed, or Paxton? They all make superchargers for 4 cylinder motors...

[JUSTNLX]

Originally posted by EvilTwstedTwins
I do not understand why 'most' people start threads like these, this is a war that will never end kind of like death and taxes it will never stop. E

People start threads like this because they want to learn. This thread has by no means become a war. There has been allot of useful information posted and for those that do not know that much about S/Cs and turbochargers this has been a very good thread!

Originally posted by chris99232
OMG!!! People give it a rest... Each has there own advantages and disadvatages. The main thing is to do your homework! Make sure you know exactly what you are wanting to get out of your car and how you want to do it. Then recheck it again! I don't know about you guys, but I can't aford a new motor. Take your time, do it right. If you can only aford one part at a time, so be it. don't install one part at a time. It's inevitable that you'll "F" something up. Just wait till you have all the parts to do it right. Wether that be a turbo or a supercharger. Oh yeah, by the way, "is it even possible to supercharge a four cyl?" umm... yes very, have you ever heard of Jackson Racing, Neuspeed, or Paxton? They all make superchargers for 4 cylinder motors...

“People give it a rest” Why? Like I said above. “This thread has by no means become a war” It is comments like “Give it a rest” “this is a war that will never end” that turns things that way. Again there is allot of useful info in this thread. And like you said “do your homework” This thread is a good place to start. You gave some good advise and will only add to the thread, but this is no war.

And just to keep things straight, nobody said you could not S/C a four banger. My personal thoughts are a turbo would be more efficient on a banger.

[KrackerHead]

Just my two cents. There is no question that there will always be good arguments over what is better BUT when it truely comes down to it if you got the MONEY you can make anything run. Look at what you can do with a fourcylinder if you have enough money. Man what I would give to have a turbo or supercharger setup on my stang right now. Man I cant wait for the day mine is ready.

Later.

[Sargin]

The day the NHRA Top Fuel Dragsters switch to turbos, is the day I switch to turbos. Untill then SC all the way.

[7-UP]

I say forced induction all the way. Blowers and turbos are both awesome.

[JUSTNLX]

Originally posted by Sargin
The day the NHRA Top Fuel Dragsters switch to turbos, is the day I switch to turbos. Untill then SC all the way.

That would be interesting. Two huge turbos hanging off a Keith Black Hemi running Top Fuel

Well NHRA would never let that happen

[Tominator]

NHRA has specific rules for different classes. Top Fuel run belt driven blowers because that is what the rules say they can run.

A few years ago one of the car mags had an "Unlimited Shootout."

Several configurations showed up. Funny Cars, Top Fuels, and cars completely built just for this event.

The 'winner' was a 4/5ths scale car with a highly modified GM Vortec V6. It ran twin turbos and was described a 'making unlimited horsepower!'

At half the other car's displacement it literally buried the other contestants! The NHRA guys went around yelling that the test wasn't fair!

Now, that suggestion of a belt driven super from a Volvo 740 and adapting it to a 5.0 has got my mind in overdrive! I can make the brackets....pulley would be easily fabricated....cheap, REALLY CHEAP!

This might deserve it's own thread!

[dieseltech85]

here it is. turbos work more efficiently and do not take any hp from the engine. Detriot diesel used to have a roots blower and a turbo on their 2 stroke egnines because the blower didnt produce enough power. turbos use heat from the exhaust which is why it builds boost under load. load=more rejected heat from the engine. Now with the new bearings in turbos lag is very minimal.i have a friend with a buick t type that is absolutely insane. its bored bigger turbo and alcohol injection.alcohol is the greatest you can run more boost without knock. if you use forced induction i would highly recomend using it. i believe my friend said 80hp for like $300 not positive on numbers. but the fact of the matter is turbos are better if properly matched to the engine. (Diesels can make 1000 hp with a turbo)

[Mustangdewd3.8]

well Im not going to read all that lol

but turbos come on these lil 4 cyls so they actually have power, take them off you have a 100 hp car, so they need something that gives them some unf to move lol.

two. I think I just broke my hand O_o lol

thirdly. I don't think our engines were made for a turbo and turbos for the stang are like 5000 + where as a super is 2000-3000

turbos blow easily.. all my friends and their ricers blow turbos all the time mostly because of stock intercoolers and such.

but if you get a really expensive turbo, then expect some quality, same with super chargers, some superchargers handle cars up to 1200 hp +, check vortech.

same with turbos.


if you ask me no matter what there will always be a faster car. always no matter what i sunder that hood.

if it was me I'd go with the turbo, but in reality I want the supercharger.

and the lag is more than 1 second I seen turbo cars race
its more like 2 but who cares

Domestics Vs Imports.
The domestics mainly mustngs ripped them off the line and were halway there it made the civics look liek they werent moving then that turbo kicked in and they won, I just see it as cheap victory lol.