ProCharger says 510RWHP on stock motor?

Bluestoval · 08-27-2005

Ok, ProCharger says 510RWHP on a stock motor running 91 octane pump gas.

The link is here: http://www.procharger.com/2005_mustang_600hp.shtml

Does anyone know the "catch" to this. That number just seems high.

Thanks!

hotwheels · 08-28-2005

it's possible, i just wouldn't bank on it being all around safe horsepower.........but 14psi is alot of boost on an engine that already has 300 hp.........

12second5.0 · 08-31-2005

You are in the area hp wise of splitting the block........

Boombotz · 10-08-2005

Someone mentioned that you are in the area of splitting the block well my question is: What is a good psi to look at when installing a procharger on the new 05 or 06 v8 mustang. I am also new to this and I was wondering do you have to take out the engine to add a supercharger? If you do how much did you guys pay (if you did) to put this bolt-on on? Also this would be a everyday driver. I want something with BALLS on the road!!! you all know what i mean

Sorry for being so new to this but its better to learn now then never

hotwheels · 10-08-2005

you don't have to remove the engine to install a supercharger.....one thing you need to worry about on your 4.6 litre is the internal's.....they aren't top of the line and therefore if you get greedy with the boost, you take a chance on damaging your engine....if you buy one, just go for 8psi and be happy with that till you get your internal's done...

hotwheels of insanemustangs

Mana4Real · 10-10-2005

I wouldn't run that much boost on a stock motor. Anywhere from 8-10 PSI was always safe on the 99-04 GT's. I don't know how well the new motors fair up to the old. But, it's all in the tune.

blueoval6 · 10-17-2005

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Originally Posted by Mana4Real

I wouldn't run that much boost on a stock motor. Anywhere from 8-10 PSI was always safe on the 99-04 GT's. I don't know how well the new motors fair up to the old. But, it's all in the tune.

I am not that proud of ford with their 4.6 I have blown 2 and am on my third one now. And since the first motor I have had a 02 engine. I know the some people run 10-12 with vortex. But one has now rebuilt his but after a year or so. He had 456 rwhp. So I would be worried about running to much I would say 6-8; also matters what else you have done.

fin1 · 10-18-2005

Having a procharger I looked into this too. Talked to a few people I trust that are pushing the 4.6L to their max and they don't recommend anything above 10-11 psi (~450rwhp), especially a daily driver which I have. The consensus seems to be the bottom end will go first. I know of a performance shop running over 500 rwhp turbo kit that is 99% stock but they are doing it with the knowledge, expertise and funds to see where these limits are.

Mana4Real · 10-21-2005

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Originally Posted by fin1

Having a procharger I looked into this too. Talked to a few people I trust that are pushing the 4.6L to their max and they don't recommend anything above 10-11 psi (~450rwhp), especially a daily driver which I have. The consensus seems to be the bottom end will go first. I know of a performance shop running over 500 rwhp turbo kit that is 99% stock but they are doing it with the knowledge, expertise and funds to see where these limits are.

Ya, a turbo kit will make way more power at the same boost level because of efficency. Procharger says no more then 10 on a stock bottom end for a 99-04

MadMatt · 12-14-2005

My dad's got a new procharger on his 05 GT and it has been fine so far. It is a 9-10 PSI boost supercharger with intercooler and he is getting over 500 HP at the rear wheels when they dyno-tuned it. It was installed by Ford's SVT team at a local dealership and the warranty was kept in tact. I have to say that with the supercharger the car's really got some balls and even with stock suspension and wheels the car still sticks pretty good on dry pavement. He will be bringing it to the track to get some ET's in the spring.

Waxed'05 GT · 12-21-2005

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Originally Posted by hotwheels

it's possible, i just wouldn't bank on it being all around safe horsepower.........but 14psi is alot of boost on an engine that already has 300 hp.........

From everywhere I have read it's not about how much boost with an engine with 300hp stock. It's about boosting at high psi's on an engine at a high compression ratio stock.

Also, I have read that the block is good for around 700hp and the weakest link is in the pistons due to their ring placement and secondly the materials used. I personally will not go much over 425 rwhp before changing out the internals.

My big question when selecting boost is.. do I want a twin screw type for big torque gains or a standard s/c for greater hp gains. And if torque is the answer what is a safe maximum for torque on a stock engine.

ro51468 · 01-01-2006

Great numbers, but questions that always need to asked wheter it is SAE vs. Standard HP, when were the runs made, in 40 degree weather or 85 degree weather or was it a loading dyno vs a non loading dyno. ATI builds a great product, no question. We really like the product.
Obviously product manufacturers regardless of who they are, always post the best early morning runs. On heat soak, an engine can lose 25-30 HP per run. I have seen it on the dyno and it happens at the track every weekend.

Ron

notenoughhuff · 01-05-2006

i dont know about procharger but maybe a vortech because there was an article in the january 2006 issue of Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords and it tested an 8 mile old 2005 gt and it got about 510 hp on an entirely stock engine.

Born To Run · 01-24-2006

So what is the safe amount of boost,Roush program for 5psi,it can go to 8 psi.They spent 6 mil in R&D & i think they know what is a safe operating range accross the board,ie engine internals,warm weather,cold weather,altitude etc.What are your thoughts?