i was thinking the same thing. I think it can be done. it is very possible
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it would need alot of work but i think you can do it.... myself i would build a new motor, completely!
Im thinking
01-04 3.8 block
4.2 crank
H-beam rods
Forged pistons
Get your heads ported w/ bigger valves
some aluminum head gaskets
under drive pulley
the eaton m90
nice intercooler
get some nice headers and weld your turbo mounts
if Matt from delk performance is running 30 psi in his 95 im sure it can be done!!
Why complicate things choose turbo or supercharger and then get the one that fits your needs and go from there .
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660.0 RWHP 583.0 Ft. lb's trq. @17.4 PSI
11.584@124.58mph( Old set up)
2002 V6 3.8 liter.
T-5 G-Force Dog Ring
Custom T-80 Turbo built by Delk Performance
Running a twin power adder combination is best done with nitrous.
You would need a clutch on the centrifugal unit and a bypass, or you'd destroy the SC. Even then you can reach 30psi with either turbos or SC, why would you need both to achieve the same goal?
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it would need alot of work but i think you can do it.... myself i would build a new motor, completely!
Im thinking
01-04 3.8 block
4.2 crank
H-beam rods
Forged pistons
Get your heads ported w/ bigger valves
some aluminum head gaskets
under drive pulley
the eaton m90
nice intercooler
get some nice headers and weld your turbo mounts
if Matt from delk performance is running 30 psi in his 95 im sure it can be done!!
Can't run an underdriver with the eaton. You would further depress the flow.
there are no aluminum head gaskets. the best available are stainless/copper laminates.
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it would need alot of work but i think you can do it.... myself i would build a new motor, completely!
Im thinking
01-04 3.8 block
4.2 crank
H-beam rods
Forged pistons
Get your heads ported w/ bigger valves
some aluminum head gaskets
under drive pulley
the eaton m90
nice intercooler
get some nice headers and weld your turbo mounts
if Matt from delk performance is running 30 psi in his 95 im sure it can be done!!
You'd need a lot more than that to keep the engine together at 30psi.
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Running a twin power adder combination is best done with nitrous.
You would need a clutch on the centrifugal unit and a bypass, or you'd destroy the SC. Even then you can reach 30psi with either turbos or SC, why would you need both to achieve the same goal?
ok i understand the eaton is small and would limit my power. its not a good unit to use, there are better ways.
the reason im just stuck on the eaton is because its the only SC i have seen that mounts to the 3.8 over the intake. all the others i have seen bolt in the belt track on the side. myself i hate the SC's that Bolt on the belt track. i know they do the same thing and i think it might even work better. but like i said before i like SC's that bolt to the intake.
while were talking about this...
what SC works more efficient.... the intake mounted or the belt mounted?
why would the wastegate be open the whole time? is it because of the PSI?
i have been doing some research on nitrous and i think i would go with a fogger system because it seems easier and better than a direct injection because it would cool the whole system and not just the cylinder. anyone disagree?
the reason i was considering both was because i have never seen it done and it seemed like it would work. but now that i know for sure the eaton would be a restriction, i dont think i will go with this.
ok i understand the eaton is small and would limit my power. its not a good unit to use, there are better ways.
the reason im just stuck on the eaton is because its the only SC i have seen that mounts to the 3.8 over the intake. all the others i have seen bolt in the belt track on the side. myself i hate the SC's that Bolt on the belt track. i know they do the same thing and i think it might even work better. but like i said before i like SC's that bolt to the intake.
while were talking about this...
what SC works more efficient.... the intake mounted or the belt mounted?
why would the wastegate be open the whole time? is it because of the PSI?
i have been doing some research on nitrous and i think i would go with a fogger system because it seems easier and better than a direct injection because it would cool the whole system and not just the cylinder. anyone disagree?
the reason i was considering both was because i have never seen it done and it seemed like it would work. but now that i know for sure the eaton would be a restriction, i dont think i will go with this.
Not only would it be a restriction, but the incoming psi would frag the case. It was designed for ambient pressure on the intake.
There are efficient twin rotor units but they are VERY expensive and none are designed for the 3.8/4.2L. The nature of the boost (comes on hard at low rpms) would likley blow anything but a forged crank, which is why the vehicles that use them (except at very low pressure) have forged and peened cranks. The SC unit only produces 7 psi, and even then durability issues mandated a forged crank for the T-Bird.
The most efficient centrifugal SC units are currently the Rotrex units, followed by the ATI-Prochargers.
Centrifugal units, like turbos come on at higher RPMs which is easier on the pistons and cranks.
Eaton, Whipple, and other twin rotor/roots units exert a lot of pressure on the crank, and are generally used for Low RPM applications, as they run out of flow in the upper ranges of the powerband. There are ways around it, but none of them are cheap, which is why the Ford GT(40) uses a different unit than the Shelby, it's cost.
For the same reason, Shelby used centrifugal units on his older cars, and on his "new" old cars.
The twin rotor/roots SC units are generally used for torque in street applications on engines with little torque.
You'll see them on a lot of imports, and for the same reason, you almost never saw them on 5.0L cars, but the 4.6L doesn't have much torque production until higher in the RPM range. People "felt" slower in the 4.6Ls even though they were faster than the 5.0L cars.
It's just seat of the pants.
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Not only would it be a restriction, but the incoming psi would frag the case. It was designed for ambient pressure on the intake.
There are efficient twin rotor units but they are VERY expensive and none are designed for the 3.8/4.2L. The nature of the boost (comes on hard at low rpms) would likley blow anything but a forged crank, which is why the vehicles that use them (except at very low pressure) have forged and peened cranks. The SC unit only produces 7 psi, and even then durability issues mandated a forged crank for the T-Bird.
The most efficient centrifugal SC units are currently the Rotrex units, followed by the ATI-Prochargers.
Centrifugal units, like turbos come on at higher RPMs which is easier on the pistons and cranks.
Eaton, Whipple, and other twin rotor/roots units exert a lot of pressure on the crank, and are generally used for Low RPM applications, as they run out of flow in the upper ranges of the powerband. There are ways around it, but none of them are cheap, which is why the Ford GT(40) uses a different unit than the Shelby, it's cost.
For the same reason, Shelby used centrifugal units on his older cars, and on his "new" old cars.
The twin rotor/roots SC units are generally used for torque in street applications on engines with little torque.
You'll see them on a lot of imports, and for the same reason, you almost never saw them on 5.0L cars, but the 4.6L doesn't have much torque production until higher in the RPM range. People "felt" slower in the 4.6Ls even though they were faster than the 5.0L cars.
It's just seat of the pants.
what do you mean "the incoming psi would frag the case. It was designed for ambient pressure on the intake."?
so the eaton is the only twin rotor unit made for the 3.8?
what about the GTP? they have 3.8 woth twin rotor systems?
im guessing it wont work... even if it does i couldnt run the 4.2 crank unless they made fored ones... do they make forged cranks for the 4.2?
what do you mean "the incoming psi would frag the case. It was designed for ambient pressure on the intake."?
so the eaton is the only twin rotor unit made for the 3.8?
what about the GTP? they have 3.8 woth twin rotor systems?
im guessing it wont work... even if it does i couldnt run the 4.2 crank unless they made fored ones... do they make forged cranks for the 4.2?
The case on the Eaton was not designed to be force fed. Forcing compressed air to be further compressed would frag the case, and the fragments would likely end up in your engine, fragging your engine.
yes.
the intakes are different. you cannot use a GTP unit.
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Even the GTP unit, though it's more modern, makes no power compated to even a Vortech unit without an intercooler, much less an ATI unit that makes 30% more power.
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You can have one made (a forged 4.2L crank), but be prepared to spend a couple thousand dollars just on the crank alone.
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The case on the Eaton was not designed to be force fed. Forcing compressed air to be further compressed would frag the case, and the fragments would likely end up in your engine, fragging your engine.
yes.
the intakes are different. you cannot use a GTP unit.
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Even the GTP unit, though it's more modern, makes no power compated to even a Vortech unit without an intercooler, much less an ATI unit that makes 30% more power.
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You can have one made (a forged 4.2L crank), but be prepared to spend a couple thousand dollars just on the crank alone.
what can you do to a twin rotor SC to make it more powerful?
can you port it?
how much gain do you get from a smaller pulley?
can you replace the rotors?
what can you do to a twin rotor SC to make it more powerful?
can you port it?
how much gain do you get from a smaller pulley?
can you replace the rotors?
Magnum does all that work, but it's still not as efficient as the modern units.
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