New 07...going to do typical first upgrades...exhaust, intake, gears, etc.
I'd like to hear some background, experience on how much you can push this motor that is fairly stock in terms of NOS, supercharger, turbo...
I've been hearing 400 rwhp.
What are other upgrades I should consider? Needs to be okay for street driving and I don't need anything REALLY crazy.
What's the best bang for the buck? NOS obviously is cheap but what else can I do with this beast?
Thanks all!
Travis
I have heard a 100 or 120 shot fairly easily on stock internals, and up to about 9 boost if you do forced induction. I would guess that is either or, not both together, but I could be wrong. There are PLENTY of people here who can tell you from experience...
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The biggest thing I have seen for your model is tuning, tuning, tuning, get a bunch of parts together then put them on and dyno tune it. Make sure u are not like my neighbor down the street with a 2006 gt350 that smokes and does not even have 10k on it. I don't know what he did to the car but he won't ask me any questions and I have a low 12 sec car on street tires, with 112k miles and not smoke and no compression loss but to his their own.
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Running 8-10psi of intercooled boost will probably require some other component upgrades but for 75% HP increase for only $1,000 more than the FRPP it definately seems worth it if you're already putting that much $$$ under the hood. I've been researching this topic also (Extensively!!!) and this definately is the best looking on paper in terms of HP increaseand cost. I haven't talked with anyone about it (mechanics, users etc....) but if it doesn't involve to much other component upgrades I'll be investing in one of these soon!!!!
I have heard a 100 or 120 shot fairly easily on stock internals, and up to about 9 boost if you do forced induction. I would guess that is either or, not both together, but I could be wrong. There are PLENTY of people here who can tell you from experience...
So as long as I'm not beating hard on it daily I should be ok with an 8psi intercooled blower??? I'm going to get a centerforce clutch to deal with the extra load but other than exhaust I was going to call it a day. I mean the s/c setup comes with everything.....new intake, blower, tune, some even with the new fuel pump although to maximize the air flow I was going to get a new fuel system. I hope it's as easy as it sounds!!!
I just ordered the 500hp supercharger kit from Ford Racing. All of the research I have done indicated that the 4.6 is very durable. I don't plan on running in a 11# boost condition all of the time. For the occaisional burst it should be awsome. I think a lot of the wear issues will be determined by how hard you run the car and how often you push it that hard. I drove a friend's GT-500 last week and was amazed at how managible the power was. Call 1-800-ford788 and talk to the technical support staff. They are very informative. I am a ASE Master Technician, and specialize in driveabilty repairs. I think I can tell the guys who really know their stuff and I have been real impressed with these guys.
Jim
well the 291 [4.6L] in the new mustangs is very durable and have seen alot of highpowered cars using this as a base engine. I would do the basic bolt on's first. exhaust, tyres, cold air intake (c.a.i.) pulleys, short throw shifter, and what not, but for something larger. i would go with a turbo [yes, a turbo on a mustang] because if you want to drive it for daily use then at low rpms you will save gas and get better mileage. after the turbo and intercooler i would then get one of those programmers and tune it. Thats my 2 cents.
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well the 291 [4.6L] in the new mustangs is very durable and have seen alot of highpowered cars using this as a base engine. I would do the basic bolt on's first. exhaust, tyres, cold air intake (c.a.i.) pulleys, short throw shifter, and what not, but for something larger. i would go with a turbo [yes, a turbo on a mustang] because if you want to drive it for daily use then at low rpms you will save gas and get better mileage. after the turbo and intercooler i would then get one of those programmers and tune it. Thats my 2 cents.
well the 291 [4.6L] in the new mustangs is very durable and have seen alot of highpowered cars using this as a base engine. I would do the basic bolt on's first. exhaust, tyres, cold air intake (c.a.i.) pulleys, short throw shifter, and what not, but for something larger. i would go with a turbo [yes, a turbo on a mustang] because if you want to drive it for daily use then at low rpms you will save gas and get better mileage. after the turbo and intercooler i would then get one of those programmers and tune it. Thats my 2 cents.
Saving gas or not, putting that much money under the hood and not getting your max power from the line just doesn't seem like the best way to go. Muscle cars aren't supposed to run at 180 mph.
some say 450rwhp others 475 even 500. alot of hp quick will eventually pop the front bearing/crank on this 281. and the rods are suspect too, but then again if u ain't hittin redline from the getgo all the time you will be ok. you can finance a s/c at www.superchargersonline.com as well as bodykits etc. they are simple finance loans for 48 months. coooooool!!!!
Saving gas or not, putting that much money under the hood and not getting your max power from the line just doesn't seem like the best way to go. Muscle cars aren't supposed to run at 180 mph.
Well, you can save gas and have more power faster than a centrifugal supercharger, most single turbo kits your looking at being at full boost by 3,400 rpms and with the centrifugal you don't have full boost until redline.
Travis,
I too am in the same boat as you, so many aftermarket sources, so many choices, so much advice. And my car doesnt even arrive here in Germany till February!! I would take jrowledge's advice and talk to the Ford guys. Yes I know they are there to sell FRPP stuff too, but I also have done alot of research online, and as you can see, there are lots of opinions on the subject of tuning the S197. They are the experts on their cars. I have not seen good things about the Procharger, and a month ago I was gangbusters too hang one on my car. Poor customer service, among other things. The good thing about the Ford stuff, is it carries a warranty and doesnt void the factory warranty. You can source it at places other than a Ford dealer too. I found all of the FRPP
"kits"; ie, handling pack, s/c, tuning kit etc. at aftermarket handlers for 10-25% less than FRPP's prices.
I have tuned lots of cars, of different makes, motorcycles etc in my life, I too was an ASE Master Tech, and I will tell you that probably 60-70% of the Aftermarket is hype. Companies are in business to make money!! Do your research, read user reviews and see what has worked and what hasn't, and more importantly what has destroyed peoples cars!! Ask as many fellow enthusiasts as you can about each part you are considering and what their experiences where like in their build ups. Also, take your time, DON'T be in a hurry!!
From all of my builds of GM, BMW, Ford, and other products, plus being older and wiser now, I will always favor a conservative build on a car now. I am past the, "he beat me, I gotta go dump another 5K to get him back" syndrome. I have raced Drag, SCCA Solo and ProSolo, and now in Europe on some of the worlds best courses, I know what is fast, and what a good driver is. I have spent time with some of the best Instructors in the world, guys who are the best of the best in the motorsports world. I will always be more respectful of a guy who knows his stuff and does his research, than the other side of the coin, whether he has the fastest car or not. I like a great driver and an enthusiast more than the car i guess.
Just my 2 cents, best of luck, thanks for a great thread too, it is very helpful to get this kind of discussion going.
Newbie - 2007 Mustang GT - How far can I push this? 
