Im looking to either Supercharge my 2000 GT or buy an older pre-smog mustang and build that. Does anyone know of any good supercharger kits with or without an intercooler that would be safe on stock rods and pistons?? Im scared to put a supercharger on my car knowing how I will drive it.. Being my only car I dont want to blow the motor...
Its too slow for me at the moment. ITs a 2000 California Concepts Mustang Conv. basic mods. Cold Air Kit, Throttlebody and Plenum, Eibach springs, Subframe connecters, mufflers, Cobra R rims w/ 17/35-315's in the rear... Ran a 13.9 w/o Throttlebody n plenum.. IS that any decent as for 1/4 mile time considering the mods? I appreciate all the insignt I can get...
Any supercharger can be installed on it and have it live a long and happy life. It's when the owner gets greedy and ups the boost for more and more power and then a weak link is found, usually a head gasket. On a 2000 model, if you limit the boost to no more than 7-8 psi, you should be fine and at that boost level, an intercooler isn't a necessity. 7-8 psi is more than enough to give you a huge rush. Should you get in a position that you can upgrade the engine to handle more boost, the supercharger can be upgraded as well.
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Thats cool. The only hard thing about it is so say its around 4K for a supercharger kit. I can get my motor built, blueprinted and balanced w/ a supercharger w/ 700 Hp for 7,000. Then I'd have to get new tranny, rear-end... and the list goes on.. And still have to pass smog.. It would be a sick daily driver and an awsome car at the drags.. Or I can buy a pre-smog mustang and go crazy and still have a very reliable car and have another car thats got the gobs of power... Its tought to decide.. A fast 2000 must gt conv. or 68 Fastback.. Any suggestions?
well, if you do get a supercharger....I suggest a self contained unit such as a ProCharger vs a Vortec which shares engine oil with your engine....one goes out and you lose both.
On your time question, i have a 2000 gt and i ran 14.10 completly stock n 13.70's with plenium and throttle body. there's alot of power adders you can go with instead of going all out with a supercharger but there ain't any going wrong with settin a kenne bell on that 4.6. just no replacement for that whistle. but without that you can get in the low 13's/high 12's with headers, puleys, intake manifold, cams and a set of radials and if not you'l still have the best soundin gt around.
Thats cool. The only hard thing about it is so say its around 4K for a supercharger kit. I can get my motor built, blueprinted and balanced w/ a supercharger w/ 700 Hp for 7,000. ?
I'm sorry, but that is not happening. You need to check those price figures again.
It is pretty common knowledge that a stock block, stock internals 4.6L is good to about 400 lb/ft of torque. We were hired to do some testing on a test car (a 2003 GT) with a newly released TTI blower on it, and pushed it on the dyno until it finally let go. The rods finally gave up at 420 lb/ft of torque, and we got to do it on PURPOSE. Fun stuff. Not a lot of block damage, the rods just kinda disappeared and one looked like it was meant to go around corners. The MAF saturated, the injectors peaked, the fuel pump hit 100% duty cycle..lots of good data was picked up.
Final results (after engine repairs) were good though: 385 horse, 400 torque.
Hopefully someone will post on this. I had this severel months ago. Im looking at the 2.6l kenne bell supercharger. With 14psi its around 540 rwhp. I've heard all you need to do is upgrade to forged pistons and rods. And put in the cobra fuel tank with pumps and 55lb injectors and stock fuel lines and that will be sufficent... I would also think i'd have to upgrade the clutch and weld up the rear-end and put in forged gears.. Any ideas for any other weak links? Does this sound like it'd actually work?
Hopefully someone will post on this. I had this severel months ago. Im looking at the 2.6l kenne bell supercharger. With 14psi its around 540 rwhp. I've heard all you need to do is upgrade to forged pistons and rods. And put in the cobra fuel tank with pumps and 55lb injectors and stock fuel lines and that will be sufficent... I would also think i'd have to upgrade the clutch and weld up the rear-end and put in forged gears.. Any ideas for any other weak links? Does this sound like it'd actually work?
That will work. You need to beef up the rear end and the transmission though. The transmission won't hold that kinda power very long if you are actually hooking up with it. If you are just spinning the tires, it will last a lot longer.
To the original poster, good blowers that I have run accross are the KB and the Procharger. Prochager is intercooled which it safer and intercooling make more power. It allows for more timing and a denser intake charge. KB also makes a great twin screw setup that's intercooled. I would run intercooled no matter what. It's a matter of safety and power. Good luck with your decision.
After a lot of research because I have got the bug and and saving a stock 00-04 block will take 420 HP give or take a few that is all the connecting rods and crank will take. The heads will not take too much more than that. 8PSI KB and you will be fast. Don;t forget brakes and A 4 Link
(Opps hit send) 4 link rear end upgrade. Personally I would do the engine from the ground up. Once you start you will keep going so plan for higher horsepower. Block, crank, rods, pistons heads, intake, etc. Look at it this way if you take stock and go to far you will have to rebuild or build and go. Stock is within exceptable factory tolerances but building, you define your tolerances. Then when you order your cams match them to the trans, blower gears etc. Send all your specs to a cam company and they will cutr the cam right for your application. Then you will at least build in room for growth. Just a thought.
I'm running a 1.7L KB on my 2000 GT. Went the bolt on route with TB, x-pipe, 3.73's, magnaflow, upper intake, pullies, cai and drag radials. Got down to a 13.2. Had to remove most of the bolt on's and went with a Non-intercooled KB. I run the 8psi pulley. Dyno'd at 375 rwhp. Run's 12'5's with some poor 60' times. Low 12's are possible with better hook up. Love the blower. Car has 90k miles and all internals are stock, tranny is stock too. I did upgrade the clutch. I have about 25k miles on the blower setup now. Runs perfect, no issues. I've been down the track about 40 times with the blower. Reliability doesn't seem to be an issue. Pulls like a mule from any RPM and power doesn't drop off at high rpms. $3500 for the kit, I put it on myself in about 14 hours with some help from a buddy in my garage. I used the tune that came with the kit. I do run a 10psi pulley with race gas from time to time. Stock MAF doesn't like the 10psi pulley. I'm maxing out injectors and air flow MAF voltage with the 10psi pulley. So, I'd need to upgrade the MAF and get a tune to use the 10. And that whine! Music to my ears.
Amen for the KB. Very complete kit. nothing else to buy except spark plugs. Not what you would call cheep though. Could make a little of that back when you put all your freshly removed bolt-ons on eBay. Question for you blower guru's, if the displacement is the same, and the boost is the same, what changes when you go from a 1.7 to a 2.2 to a 2.6? are they just turning slower? bigger pully for the same boost? Advantage?
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