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Old 10-02-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Default Supercharger or Turbocharger for the S197 Mustang GT?

How do each work and which is better? This could make for an interesting debate....
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It's too early in the morning for me to get started on this one
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Turbo is exhaust driven, Super Charger is belt driven. Both make big power. Turbo kits tend to be easier to up the boost by adjusting the boost controler, where as super chargers need to have the pullie swaped. yadda yaddayadda. Markwondi should jump in on this one eventually.
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haha, i know several of you could earn a PhD just writing about this, but i thought i could be interesting to find out what's best in our cars
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Im sure that once this part of the world wakes back up tomorrow there will be alot more imput.
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One thing that has nothing to do with how they operate or perform.....

NOTHING looks cooler than a polished twin screw supercharger sitting on top of your motor, IMHO.
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wow, that was very helpful...
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NOTHING looks cooler than a polished twin screw supercharger sitting on top of your motor, IMHO.
Haha, yeah id have 2 agree man, thats the route im heading for.. Savin up that $$ .. but im goin for the black one.. i dont really need the flashy part of it.. i just want that power. KB is the way to go IMO
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Just 10 years ago the better route was to go with a blower in most American street car applications because the blower technology was further ahead (older turbos unless sized way down had bad turbo lag and tended to be short lived) and they were usually much cheaper. But with current bearing and impeller designs, turbos (even larger versions) have a very minimal amount of lag which means there isn't much waiting around for that stupid amounts of torque that a turbo provides. The price of most turbo kits anymore is also on par or in many cases much better than blower kits as well. This being the case with a most of the 2005+ Mustang kits on the market.

Adjustability and tunability have also been mentioned and are another advantage of a turbo setup as well as overall efficiency. Turbos tend to make more horsepower and more torque using less psi than blowers will. This could be argued back and forth until the Sun goes black, but in most applications I'd pick a turbo over a blower.


I used to be a blower guy, but I'm all about the turbos now. If I can swing it I'll be getting an HP turbo kit one of these days.

Oh yeah, not even the whine of a twin screw can compete with the howl of a big trim hair dryer...turbos sound sweet.
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The Rolls Royce-Merlin had a 3 stage super-charger, the main reason for the super-charger was to operate at higher altitudes.......woops wrong Mustang,,sorry.
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One thing that has nothing to do with how they operate or perform.....

NOTHING looks cooler than a polished twin screw supercharger sitting on top of your motor, IMHO.
I agree with that. Modern engines don't have the cool look of the old carburated V8s, but swapping a polished supercharger in place of a black molded plastic intake is as cool as they get these days. And turbos always seem to be as rusty as the exhaust manifolds they're hooked up with (although they can make a lot of boost).
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i've noticed a lot of cars with smaller 4 and 6 cyl engines have turbos (WRX, GTI, 335i, 911turbo) and there are many higher end cars with bigger V8s that prefer superchargers (Ford GT, S7, XTS-V) is there any reason for this? is this something to consider when shopping for S197 power-adders?
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Their cars have better power gains from turboes i think.. plus look at what that guy said- more hp usually and more torque.. if u bolt a blower on a 4cyl.. my friends car will only get a added 65hp, and even less torque.. id ont think S/c is the way to go for 4cyls.. v8s seem to do better with them, but thats just an opinion.. both are nice, im just in it for the blower.. all my friends have turbo (evo, sti, 240..) and for my car- i wouldnt do turbo- id much rather stick to my KB im savin for..

plus i saw a turboed 06 GT mustang, it ran the best of a 13.5 all night long.. when i ran a 13.7 w/ just intake n tune.. thats horrible.. sumthing was seriously machanically wrong w/ the setup he bought.. lol i was soo excited tho- to see a S197 turboed.. and i laughed when he took off the line and at the end when i saw his time..
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oh and im NOT saying all turboes suck.. just the one he had- i kno it was brand new- but it was a POS by turbonetics.. ive seen plenty of turboed 5.0's and 04 GT's or Cobras running crazy times with turbo..
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I believe the Turbonetics kit does NOT come with any tunning, canned or otherwise. There is a very good chance the guy you saw installed the kit, started the car up, and took it right to the track. This could explain the horrible times he was getting...either that or he was an aweful driver.

The Turbonetics kit is actually overall a very nice setup and the pricing is about on par with most other power adders out there. However, I'd still take the HP kit.
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