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Old 01-20-2003   #1 (permalink)
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Default supercharger max safe psi on stock 5.0?

I have a 95 5.0 convert, is has some bolt ons but stock heads, intake, cam and bottom end with 55K miles.
Can I buy a supercharger kit and raise the psi with a different pulley? What is the max psi i could run on this engine safely?
I drive like 5K miles a year.
Like couldnt i buy a 9psi supercharger and raise the psi to like 12-15 and get alot more power?
i already have a 255 fuel pump and a crane hi-6 ignition.
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The amount of boost used is not a good measure of potential power. Volume from the supercharger is and it's curve! Boost is a measure of back pressure through the intake track as the supercharger volume gets harder to pass through engine.
Proper tuning is the key. You don't want to lean out the engine or use to much timing. Using a stock intake (95 upper is restrictive) 8lbs of boost is the most I suggest without dyno tuning air fuel ratio. The more you boost the engine air temperature starts to spike because you're compressing air. At some point this becomes to much for any power gain. Always run it on the rich side for safety but to rich will take away lots of power.
I highly suggest not to use an FMU. Use the proper size fuel injectors (at least a 30lb for 8psi boost stock) and a minimum of two pumps able to provide enough fuel volume against set fuel pressure. I've seen a stock 92 GT make 400 RWHP using a 10lb Vortech. It used a ported Vortech intake, larger fuel system, with a custom dynoed chip. Your engine does not have forged pistons so i would keep boost down related to detonation. I feel that if people can afford blowers a dynoed chip should also follow for max power and safety.
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5-6 for a Kenne Bell

7-8 for a Centrifigal

9-10 if intercooled/aftercooled

After a while almost everyone wants more boost and its not uncommon to see this along with the head gaskets failing.

But it all varies depending upon quality of the fuel you are running, fuel pressure and system, external air tempurature and timing. Remember if you run more pressure in those cylinders you might just blow your candles out--so you might need a stronger coil/ignition system with better plugs that are a step or two cooler.

Many of the base charging systems will work with stock motors, but once you start swapping pulleys, bumping your boost and changing things, then all bets are off and other mods will be needed to make your system run correctly.
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you can safely run more boost than gt dan has shown. i was making 11 with a novi 2000. tune up is the key!!!!!!! boost isn't the enemy. detonation is.
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Well.....you are probably right. If you run on edge you are much more likely to fall off. With a charged motor, mistakes on tuning can become very costly. Just make sure you are good at changing head gaskets.
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more important know how to tune!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm in agreement with you Snake.....just saying some guys have trouble checking their oil let alone get their cars tuned and dialed in. Then they go out and put a charger on it. You know this does happen from time to time.
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i agree dan......... its called having more money than sense. i've seen it happen a couple time's.
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This isn't a simple bolt on. You engine has to be tuned or you'll end up spending more money than you want to.

I wouldn't put more than 5 psi though a stock motor.
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5psi lol
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I have a '92 5.0 that was supercharged at 7-lbs for 90,000 miles before the rings and bearing flew south for the winter. It was stock bottom end the whole time, with a GT-40 intake and 1.72 roller rockers and 110lph fuel pump, 30-lb injectors, MSD ignition and ran synthetic oil. At about 40,000 mi, I put on DART Windsor "Sr" cast-iron heads and then decided it was time to increase boost, after building an 8.5:1 motor with hardened pushrods, ARP head studs, forged internals and Fel-Pro Loc-Wire head gaskets... My current setup is pushing 12-13-lbs. through a S-Trim Vortech. The motor has 114,000 miles on it and I just dynoed it at 450rwhp. That's what you get with a proper tune and a motor that was built for higher boost.
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EXAMPLE:
I have been running my 94GT with boost showing six on my powerdyne wth stock fuel system(with non adjustable FMU)For sometime now with no issues at all,i am talking full throttle runs,no detonation and clean looking plugs(i check them alot)I have about 40,000 miles put on this setup(Daily driver) so if the headgaskets do go it wouldnt suprise me even though i am cautious not to have this happen.
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