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Old 07-23-2008   #16 (permalink)
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Its not that i want to drag the car(my camaro is for that) but i would like to atleast run in the 9.5's in the 1/8 with other GT's?

Also i know someone with a 99-04 cobra IRS rear end will that bolt up to my 1995 GT if so what parts do i need and is it worth the swap?

Thanks ya'll have really helped alot

Oh and on the hand brake thing mine dose not work so well its like it dont lock just berly slows the car down even when i'm parked on a hill in N" it will still roll do i need to tighten it or what?
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Oh and on the hand brake thing mine dose not work so well its like it dont lock just berly slows the car down even when i'm parked on a hill in N" it will still roll do i need to tighten it or what?
It's not a handbrake anymore, it's a parking brake. you'll have to have a custom handbrake done,

The IRS will bolt in, but you'll need to install the brackets to do it. It's not that big of a deal.
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So how do i make a custom hansbrake an extra bracket and tighten up the cable?

And what brackets do i need to bolt in that rear end i've heard that the 1994-1998 SN-95's have the same chassie as the 1999-2004 SN-95's so the rear end should bolt right up with the brackets you said right?

Also are the brackets on a stock cobra or do you have to order special ones from someone if so who?

And like i said would that rearend help with handeling and be worth the swap?

thanks man ya'll have really helped me
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So how do i make a custom hansbrake an extra bracket and tighten up the cable?

And what brackets do i need to bolt in that rear end i've heard that the 1994-1998 SN-95's have the same chassie as the 1999-2004 SN-95's so the rear end should bolt right up with the brackets you said right?

Also are the brackets on a stock cobra or do you have to order special ones from someone if so who?

And like i said would that rearend help with handeling and be worth the swap?

thanks man ya'll have really helped me
An irs cobra can outrun the 350Z and RX8 around a road course - A stick axle requires a lot of work - the IRS was slated to be banned in NASA races because of the advantage KBs cars had over the F-bodies.

You should use 300M axles, though.

Re: brackets, I think most people fabricate them, I don't know if anyone sells them and it would probably take as much work to get them off a cobra . . . there's a couple of people who have done it here - but I don't remember who.

I just have the subframe - waiting to pick up tubular control arms . ..
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Oh and on the hand brake thing mine dose not work so well its like it dont lock just berly slows the car down even when i'm parked on a hill in N" it will still roll do i need to tighten it or what?
I'm going to build a drift car this winter. I am planning on modding the handbrake
  • firstly by removing the teeth so I don't need to push the button to get it back down.
  • Machine a longer handle for it
  • I am going to build a Brembo master cylinder into the handbrake mechanism
  • Run a line to the rear of the car
  • Make custom brackets for the axle that I can bolt up an extra set of calipers.
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I would not use the IRS from the Cobra's. The IRS on the Cobra's is ok but not as good as it could be. The IRS off of the 99 and 01 Cobra's are weaker than the IRS off of the 03-04. They are rated for the same power I believe but the 03-04 usually last longer than the 99-01. Not to mention that the IRS swap is a bit more complicated than an SRA swap.

An SRA can handle just as well as an IRS if it is set up properly. The IRS on the Cobra's really just makes for a friendlier ride. The IRS makes the bumps the car hits feel softer. Once you get hardcore into road racing or drifting it is just personal preference.

You will have to upgrade the E-brake as well. The E-brakes in drift cars are different than the E-brakes in regular cars. I would just stick with the stock SRA and build it up, they can handle amazing as well. Ask Novanutcase if you do not believe me.
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thanks ya'll this really helps luckly these post are saved so i can come back to them while i'm building I'll let ya'll know how it works
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If you are serious about the suspension part of things then do not half ass it. You can not try to build a suspension and then cheap out when you can not afford the parts. A suspension works all together not one part doing everything. I have seen a lot of people slap on some lowering springs and shocks and then wonder why they can not handle as well as a Vette.

Everything needs to be built up to work with the other parts of the suspension i.e. the front suspension needs to work but it also needs to work well with the rear suspension as well as connecting the whole car together.
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So if I were to do the IRS swap what would I have to do to the front end to make it handel at its best?

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I would not use the IRS from the Cobra's. The IRS on the Cobra's is ok but not as good as it could be. The IRS off of the 99 and 01 Cobra's are weaker than the IRS off of the 03-04. They are rated for the same power I believe but the 03-04 usually last longer than the 99-01. Not to mention that the IRS swap is a bit more complicated than an SRA swap.

An SRA can handle just as well as an IRS if it is set up properly. The IRS on the Cobra's really just makes for a friendlier ride. The IRS makes the bumps the car hits feel softer. Once you get hardcore into road racing or drifting it is just personal preference.

You will have to upgrade the E-brake as well. The E-brakes in drift cars are different than the E-brakes in regular cars. I would just stick with the stock SRA and build it up, they can handle amazing as well. Ask Novanutcase if you do not believe me.
That's what Griggs & MM say, but they also pushed for Kenny Brown's IRS to be banned.

Has nothing to do with softer riding - if one tire hits a bump it doesn't affect the other wheel. T

he chassis stays much more stable than any stick axle can, no matter what. So it FEELS softer, because the chassis is under more control of the driver. It is a friendlier ride BECAUSE it's not doing anything UNfriendly.

The more hardcore you get into road racing - particularly on non-track surfaces the less personal the preference is going to become.

If the track is smooth, then a stick-axle can be better - as the wheels are always perpendicular to the pavement, and there are no bumps to upset the other wheel and the chassis.

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Kenny Brown IRS control Arms - Google Product Search

You just want to stick with a system.

Mustang Parts at V8 Power.com: Kenny Brown AGS Front Suspension Kit 1999-2004 Cobra
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Thanks agin man ya'll have changed my perspective on road racing and all the info ya'll gave me is great!
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Hey guys sorry its been a while but i've been weeping over wrecking my old car but now i have a 2001 GT and i want to do the same thing to it as i was with my 95 ,so since they are the same chassis cant i just do all the same stuff ya'll told me to my new car?

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Hey guys sorry its been a while but i've been weeping over wrecking my old car but now i have a 2001 GT and i want to do the same thing to it as i was with my 95 ,so since they are the same chassis cant i just do all the same stuff ya'll told me to my new car?

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Actually the 01+ cars have better front suspension geometry. A LOT of the stuff will carry over, but some will require some modification . ..
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