what can i do to keep up with/ beat my friends '08 si?
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what can i do to keep up with/ beat my friends '08 si?
'03 3.8L manual. i know i've got alot of work ahead of me, i just wanna know where to start. what should i do to keep up with/beat my friend off the line/on the striaght/ around corners??? all advice welcome.
'03 3.8L manual. i know i've got alot of work ahead of me, i just wanna know where to start. what should i do to keep up with/beat my friend off the line/on the striaght/ around corners??? all advice welcome.
"SI" is that a honda? what does he have done to his car?
What are you really looking for, racing him from a to b, like on the street and strip? or a road course/ The mustang wasnt really made in my opinion for the road course. Also bottom line what are you looking to spend right now?
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umm dude you got a 6 cyl. mustang those are just for braggin rights of owning a stang its not gonna beat much of anything without putting either 20k into engine for turbos and performance upgrades or engine swap. go and get a cobra or shelby or something thats decently power equipped and not handicapped ( ouch that hurts even me saying that about a sweet stang) but sadly its true.
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umm dude you got a 6 cyl. mustang those are just for braggin rights of owning a stang its not gonna beat much of anything without putting either 20k into engine for turbos and performance upgrades or engine swap. go and get a cobra or shelby or something thats decently power equipped and not handicapped ( ouch that hurts even me saying that about a sweet stang) but sadly its true.
Ya but he might be a younger guy that cant get one of those right now. We were all there at one point in time! Theres things you can do with a 6. It's just going to cost alittle more. The only down fall is they dont make after market heads for the 3.8. You dont need a cobra or shelby. (I dont like the new shelby) I weights a dump truck load. A nice v6 or a gt would be just fine!
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[quote=TrueMuscle;1199077]umm dude you got a 6 cyl. mustang those are just for braggin rights of owning a stang its not gonna beat much of anything without putting either 20k into engine for turbos and performance upgrades or engine swap.
Dude!
Take it easy. He's just asking how he can make his car a little faster.
Bro,
Check out the 3.8 tech section. It won't cost you 20g's to make your car faster.
umm dude you got a 6 cyl. mustang those are just for braggin rights of owning a stang its not gonna beat much of anything without putting either 20k into engine for turbos and performance upgrades or engine swap.
Dude!
Take it easy. He's just asking how he can make his car a little faster.
Bro,
Check out the 3.8 tech section. It won't cost you 20g's to make your car faster.
Good luck!
No kidding 20g's that could make a few v6's have some good street cred.
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first things first. get rid of the 900 cats and mufflers crap. (my first car was a 94 v6 i hear ya). i literaly just took a saw cut them all off went to autozone bought a couple of flexpipes and some clamps for 12 bux! (assuming we are on a budget here). cold air intake, you can find chips the v6s EVERYWHEre that supposidly plug in and add hp. Not 100% sure on how effective they are never personally saw one. if your gonna start getting into turbos and cams and stuff (which is all possible) dont forget about the rearend, not sure what you can do with it/afford but the one-wheeler-peelers arnt gonna cut it!
sorry guys, guess i forgot to add a few details :S yes its a honda, so far hes just got a kn air filter and tein springs. he doesnt wanna do too much right now because of his warranty. i figure i have a little bit of an advantage there, being able to do what i want to my car and not have to worry about it :P as far as budget goes i have about 2 - 2.5 g i can spend, and as far as where i would be racing him it would be kinda just around anywhere, but not so much in a straight line. thanks for bringing this up!!! i heard about needing to do something to the rear end because of the one wheel slip, but i dont really know what exactly i need to do. somebody said something about getting a completely different axle??? and the first few things i wanted to do were cai and exhaust. but i was wondering if i should just do cat back, or if its really worth it to go the whole 9 yards?? and for general purposes, yes im a younger guy. 18 to be exact!
do not take him to a set of twisties 'coz that's the civic's play pen. those cars were meant for closed-circuit racing. if it's just a stop light to stop light kinda thing, then you should be ok w/ your car. on long straights he'll be able to keep up w/ you or even be a nod faster.
all things considered, be careful out there. remember that there are roads made specifically for racing. i guess it's safer if you race in a controlled environment.
do not take him to a set of twisties 'coz that's the civic's play pen. those cars were meant for closed-circuit racing. .
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You dont need to change out your axel. Having "irs" is alittle harder for the car to get better traction when racing vs. having a solid axel (when racing in a straght line). This can be some what fixed with lowering springs, rear lower control arms, different roll bars, and sub fram connectors and caster camber plates. All of this should cost around $800 plus.
That's one thing the civic has on the mustang. Lower center of gravity. And weights alot less which can help him out alot around turns.
**I dont sugest racing on any turny roads. You dont have any tranning/ maybe very little on this and you CAN kill your self along with other drivers. Take that type racing to a closed road circuit course.
With the sespestion, I get a "cai" any one will do fine. You'll just pay more depending on the brand and finsh it comes with. a exhust from the headers back will help along with a different cam. I dont think (havent seen any) and I've head they dont make after market heads for v6's.
Even then, that's still fine you can prot and polish them to get a few more hp out of it to. But the port and polish work alone will cost you around $1,000-$1,500 for the work.
In all have fun, you got plenty of time and dont kill your self doing it!
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ok, so cai and exhaust will give me the advantage in speed right? and its deffinitely worth it to upgrade as much of the exhaust system as i can?if i remember right i can get an exhaust kit for about $900, a cai for about $200, and then a suspension kit for about $900 as well. assuming i do all that, how close would it be? i already know im not gonna beat him when it comes to a course full of turns, and im fairly positive he wont beat me in a straight line. what i wanna be able to do is beat him when the playing field is even.
ok, so cai and exhaust will give me the advantage in speed right? and its deffinitely worth it to upgrade as much of the exhaust system as i can?if i remember right i can get an exhaust kit for about $900, a cai for about $200, and then a suspension kit for about $900 as well. assuming i do all that, how close would it be? i already know im not gonna beat him when it comes to a course full of turns, and im fairly positive he wont beat me in a straight line. what i wanna be able to do is beat him when the playing field is even.
The headers will let the motor breath better. The stock headers that come on fords are pinched. (because it's faster to install on the factory floor.) It will give you some more hp which can make you go faster. It you want to go faster off the line you'll need to change out your rear end gears. put a 3:73, 3:90 or a 4:10 gears in. 3:73 gears are a nice gear but 4:10 are wild!!!. If you plan on s/c or turboing it later stick with a 3:73 no lower then a 3:90.
becasue you'll have no top end. A exhust it a great way to free up some hp and making it sound better! A suspension kit is a big plus you could have all the power in the world but if you can't keep the weight and tire on the road it means nothing!
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im not looking to add a turbo or nos in the future or now, so i think ill prob go with the 4:10. how much are those? about the suspension, thats exactly how i feel!!! ok, so to sum up, what do u think i should get? concidering i only want to spend about 2 - 2.5 grand.
im not looking to add a turbo or nos in the future or now, so i think ill prob go with the 4:10. how much are those? about the suspension, thats exactly how i feel!!! ok, so to sum up, what do u think i should get? concidering i only want to spend about 2 - 2.5 grand.
A lot of people here have "eibach" springs. They were on the 95 cobra r's so they should be a nice sring. I'm going to buy these in a progressive rate. I heard many times that they went with the other pring rating and they didnt like the way they felt. So in the end they went with the progressive and like them better. They cost alittle bit more but you get what you pay for! I'd start a thread for suspension upgrades they should be able to tell you more on the anit roll/ sway bars along with the sub-fram connectors. People with this can help you out better when it comes to that. I havent dont the sway bars yet, that's next spring! For a shop to do your rear gears it should cost around 500 dollars, plus or take a few bucks depending where you go and where you live.
Jason
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what can i do to keep up with/ beat my friends '08 si? 
