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Old 05-18-2004   #1 (permalink)
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Question TA & PHB too much for street?

Well I'm getting my TA and PHB (Maximum Motorsports) installed right now and I can't wait to drive it. But I was told that it might vibrate the hell out of me! How bad will this change my street drivablity??

Also my next upgrade will be rear disc and than coil overs for the front. I'm I on the rigth track for a great handling stang or am I missing something? You can check my sig for all my mods. I do plan to do some autoX and even hit the drag strip ever once in a while, but mostly I drive my car everyday.

Any hints, tips and help would be greatly appreciated. Any suspension tuning tips would be great too.

Oh yeah, I have crappy used tires right now but I do plan on getting some 17" cobra R's. What's a good rubber to wrap them with. The car will see some rain and street duty mostly.
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How is the VB code turned on for my signature?
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what is ta and phb,i'm new to mustangs that turn
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I didn't really notice a difference in ride quality with my PHB (Pan hard bar, for those who were wondering). But then agian my ride quality has always been just a touch better than a log wagon on a haul road, okay I'm streching it a bit, the log wagon would a be smoother ride. You will definitely notice a difference in the feel of the rear of the car when powering around corners, you will be amazed at the difference.
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so i guess ta is torqe arm
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I got everything on and I love it. The only problem is on the passenger side the exhaust (where it goes over the rear end) touches on the phb and makes a horrible noise when they rub together. I also think it might be causing a little more vibration than usual. Is there a fix for this other than going to the muffler shop?
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I got everything on and I love it. The only problem is on the passenger side the exhaust (where it goes over the rear end) touches on the phb and makes a horrible noise when they rub together. I also think it might be causing a little more vibration than usual. Is there a fix for this other than going to the muffler shop?

My Saleen PHB instructions said moding the exhast would most likely need to be done, and they were right. All you need is a muffler shop and some cash and its no longer a problem.
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Black88coupe, yep, you figured it out. TA must be Torque Arm, and PHB must be Panhard Bar. I hadn't seen those abbreviations either, but since I helped a budy put them on his car, I understand all to well about the need to get the muff/exhaust adjusted to create clearance for the nice MM (Maximum Motorsports) gear.

Legendary, please post your mods list directly into your signature when you get a chance, it is much easier for folks to take a quick look when they are right there.

For rims and tires, it is hard to beat the deals AFS in Canoga Park, CA posts on ebay... you can buy through an auction or directly, but they run so many auctions that you might get lucky and find one that goes below the buy now price. My friend got a set of Chrome Cobra R rims with Kumho Ecsta 712 Z rated tires for the price of just the tires if purchased retail. Those are good, safe Z rate street tires, but not as sticky for the track as you may want. Will probably last 25-30K with proper care.

If you decide not to go that route, tires depends on how much you have to spend, how long you need them to last, and how hard you want to corner in the dry vs the wet. For example, if you are going to get into autocrossing, and want to drive and autocross with some competitiveness on the same tires, the best tire for that is the Falken Azenis. It happens to be relatively inexpensive, but the wear rating is just barely enough on the street. You will probably get about 10K miles out of a set, maybe less, but you will enjoy every minute the car is turning. I would definitely choose a 17x9 set of rims, and go with 275/40/ZR17 tires so you can at least rotate front to back, might get 15K or more out of a set of sticky tires like those if you rotate front to back every 2-3K (with oil changes), and have then remounted side to side at least once, mid-life. You will see many of the top street tire class autocrossers using those tires these days, and the hardcore folks can't make themselves take them off and save them for the track, so they just drive them all the time and enjoy them!

Much more info to share, just keep posting questions... btw, since you live in IN, and Tirerack is located there but doesn't stock Falken, if you decide to stick with TR, I suggest either the Kumho MX as a less expensive alternate to the very nice BFGs, or the Yokohama ES100 if you want a little more life, all around balanced performance/comfort and value. Don't forget that a good alignment is needed with any new set of tires, a bumpsteer kit is needed with lowering springs, and an extra aggressive alignment is needed to be competitive in autocross but will kill your tire life.

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Update, if you will see significant rain and not much track time, the Yoko ES100 is probably a pretty good all around performer and value... IMO.
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