Well, I'm talking about stock automatics. In my next Mustang, I'm definitely getting an automatic. I don't care if any of you swear at me for it. I have found that some of the aftermarket Automatics handle more torque than a T-5. That, and for a daily driver they are flat out easier to drive.
Anyways, in the owners manual of my car, it says not to drive my Mustang above 25 in 1st. Does that mean not to drive it for long periods of time, or does that mean never go above 25 in 1st even when about to shift?!
I know that when I floor it, I get to 35 mph before the automatic shifts. It's only at 3500 rpms, though. So, a mechanic told me to get a nice boost, let the rpms go to 5000, and then shift. (I'm talking about driving [1] [2] [d] [OD])
So, I went out and tried that. I don't beat on my Mustang, but I hate ricers. So, when this little Honda pulled up next to me, I knew it was time to show him his car's redemption value. His bright blue Honda was shaking from the crap he called music. He had his hat on sideways. He was nodding his head, and revving the engine. I could hear the plastic shaking. Yeah, I hate that. So, I floored it when the light turned green. I let it go to 5000 rpms, and shifted to 2nd. Then, same thing, 5000 and shift to D. By now, I was going 70 mph in D. Then I put it in OD and took off. He was way behind me.
Now I'm just worried that doing that will hurt the engine. I rarely ever drive like that, but seriously. I hate ricers.
Does the manual just say that to avoid needless engine wear, or will the tranny seriously break if I drive it like that a couple times?
Automatics are faster than any manual with a clutch. they loose more horse power because they are bigger, and there are more parts that create friction. But Torque is multiplied at the converter creating in a sense of having 50 more HP. they can shift in a fraction of a fraction of a second if it is built right. The key is use lower gears, shift kit and a good tourque converter. stock auto with a good converter and shift kit or stock manual transmission. Auto is better out of the hole.
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Automatics are faster than any manual with a clutch.
Can you tell the ricers in my town that? LOL
I love driving an automatic, and I know manual is fun too. But I was just worried because if I floor it, my auto doesn't shift to second until 4500 rpms (on average) and by then it is around 40 mph.
I'm not a moron; I don't drive the car around in 1st above 25 mph, but sometimes I plan to shift very soon after.
The only reason I drove my car this way ( [1] [2] [d] [oD] ) is because it needed a modulator valve fixed- Tranny fluid was leaking back into the engine. So the mechanic told me to drive it easy [1] [2] [d] [oD] and it would slip out less. Yeah, I don't know either, but it worked somewhat...
the classic "aod shuffle" is starting at [1] and shifting to [2] then when its shifts drop it back to [1], this pins it in second and lets you wind out the gear to its full potential. then you shift to [D] for third, and then [oD] for, well.. overdrive...
give that a try.. (if your driving a 5.0, im not sure if you are)
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the classic "aod shuffle" is starting at [1] and shifting to [2] then when its shifts drop it back to [1], this pins it in second and lets you wind out the gear to its full potential. then you shift to [D] for third, and then [oD] for, well.. overdrive...
give that a try.. (if your driving a 5.0, im not sure if you are)
Ouch... I'm driving a 2.3l. I think I know what you mean though. It's been raining out like crazy out here lately, and I got stuck behind a cell-phone idiot. So, I get to an otherwise empty intersection by RR tracks. I floored it in first, hit the sleek RR tracks and the tires spun right as I shifted. I bumped back into first on accident and WOW that thing took off. Is that what you mean?
Racing anything is more abusive to the engine, and I don't want to kill it. I just want a little more pep out of it.
The ricers in my town get to see it firsthand at the track... as I'm leaving them behind wondering "WTF?"...
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HP numbers are good and all, but they are like asking someone how much they can bench. What difference does it make if I can still kick your a$$?
Road Racing which is what you posted under is not a great test for a automatic. They do not allow control out of the turns and do over heat with ease when pushed. To avoid any of these problems you need a quality shift kit and a large transmission cooler. A shift kit increases the pressure of the hydraulics that controls the locking of the drive disc that allows motion. Slippage on a automatic which is part of the design to allow a smooth shift and comfort of driving but is a killer to performance and generates a lot of heat.
I like Automatics. The only thing Im converting to manual is my Blazer and thats it. I would like to get one of those c4 conversions or a new c3 so I have OD
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Mines an auto and I love the damn thing. The only time it sucks is when the ricer doesn't want to race off the line cuz he's scared, but after about 20-30 mph, he'll just take off thinking he's won something and I floor it to catch him. The tranny takes a bit to long to downshift for my taste, but I know a tuner/dyno and/or tranny kit would fix that. But off the line, or after it kicks down, theres almost no shift, just one long ass whoopin!
I would never dog anyone for choosing an auto tranny. There are some real advantages. Speed of shifts is definately a BIG one. I don't know anyone who can outshift an auto with a clutch and manual.
I like the 5-speed because I like rowing the gears. End of story. I like the sporty experience. I am not under any dilusions that it is quicker in any way. I have ridden in too many autos that prove that wrong. 0-60 and so forth I am sure that a properly set up auto will win every time all else being equal.
Speaking of ricers though, if you really want to see something funny, try a 4 cylinder CIVIC or COROLLA with an auto. It's like driving a washing machine.
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Back in the mid to late 60's there was a guy named Jim Hall who was kicking a$$ in road racing (the big leagues) with a Chevy powered car called the Chaparral. He always ran with an automatic transmission. He has a reputation with being an innovator in ground effects and of course the only guy that ran an automatic with wins under his belt. So it is possible to be competitive in road racing with a properly set up auto trans. It was done 40 years ago.---Chuck
Back in the mid to late 60's there was a guy named Jim Hall who was kicking a$$ in road racing (the big leagues) with a Chevy powered car called the Chaparral. He always ran with an automatic transmission. He has a reputation with being an innovator in ground effects and of course the only guy that ran an automatic with wins under his belt. So it is possible to be competitive in road racing with a properly set up auto trans. It was done 40 years ago.---Chuck
Okay dats what I was wondering as a daily driver and a car to take on a road coarse would a automativ or manual be better? they guys a t school swear by manuals
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Manual transmissions allow for better control of engine function. I hope you understand that the Chaparrel was an extensively modified car and drive train. Without the extensive mods, the best trans. would be the manual. I doubt that the trans. in the Chaparrel would live much longer than one race without a rebuild. It's surprizing that no one has taken the idea of road racing with an auto trans any farther.---Chuck
Automatics are Nice... but slow 
