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Old 07-16-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Default Swirls and water spots

Does every black car out there have some degree of swirl marks visible in direct sunlight? I just had my car professionally detailed, waxed, buffed, etc. and the swirls are still there.
Also, I made the mistake of letting water dry on the car in the summer sun, and now I have water spots baked into the paint. What's the best way of getting them out. I heard something about vinegar, will that work?
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Does every black car out there have some degree of swirl marks visible in direct sunlight? I just had my car professionally detailed, waxed, buffed, etc. and the swirls are still there.
Also, I made the mistake of letting water dry on the car in the summer sun, and now I have water spots baked into the paint. What's the best way of getting them out. I heard something about vinegar, will that work?

Well, my black car does not have any swirl marks or waterspots....but then again, I am a bit anal...the car is covered and garage kept.

Vinegar does work...to some small degree. You will need to repolish your car afterwards and the smell is foul. I use Zaino products, they have a swirl/waterspot remover that I have had much success with (used on waterspots on my F-150).

I forgot to mention, a clay bar works pretty good too...more on the waterspots than the swirl marks. Personally, speaking, waterspots are the Spit of Satan!
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Does every black car out there have some degree of swirl marks visible in direct sunlight? I just had my car professionally detailed, waxed, buffed, etc. and the swirls are still there.
Also, I made the mistake of letting water dry on the car in the summer sun, and now I have water spots baked into the paint. What's the best way of getting them out. I heard something about vinegar, will that work?
I think that is probably true. Directly sunlight reveals a lot of stuff that you don't want to see. I see flaws like that in the surface all the time. But unless you are looking at the right angle in direct sunlight they are never noticeable.

I have seen some threads on here that talk about how to get rid of water spots. Thankfully I have none of those.
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Well, my black car does not have any swirl marks or waterspots....but then again, I am a bit anal...the car is covered and garage kept.

Vinegar does work...to some small degree. You will need to repolish your car afterwards and the smell is foul. I use Zaino products, they have a swirl/waterspot remover that i have had much success with (used on waterspots on my F-150).
Jman....whatever you do DO NOT use MrV's car as the litmus test for comparison purposes....LOL. If you use that as a baseline you will be banging your head against the wall. There are people that have run more miles in the past 3 months than his car has been driven in the past 3 years......LOL.
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Jman....whatever you do DO NOT use MrV's car as the litmus test for comparison purposes....LOL. If you use that as a baseline you will be banging your head against the wall. There are people that have run more miles in the past 3 months than his car has been driven in the past 3 years......LOL.

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So there are products made specifically for water spot removal?
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So there are products made specifically for water spot removal?
Yes, but they work with varying degree of success...alot depends on how bad the spots are and how long they have been there. If real bad...they are etched into your paint. You will need to take it to a body shop for a deep polishing.
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Every car made has swirl marks from the factory. They are very minor and can only be seen in direct light, and especially so on black cars.
These swirl marks are the result of the buffers towards the end of the line that buff the paint to remove dust and any debree left by the workers or other machines. Also at times some of the buffing is done manually by a human. If you dont beleive me go stand at the end of a assembly line at look at the car. Or go to a dealership and take a look at a fresh car right off the trailer.
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I had the same situation. I let a "professional" detail my car. He was a friend of a friend.He had the truck and all the goodies inside. haha he was bad. That when I noticed the fine lines in the sun. I called a real detailer, does exotics and yachts etc.etc. to redetail my car. He was able to get all the lines out. Direct sunlight smooth as glass...for factory paint.
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i don't have a black mustang but i do know from personal experience that i am never satisfied with the professional wash, waxes, details - no one in town outshines me on a saturday night when i spend six hours detailing, hand washing, and waxing that morning! wanna talk anal retentive? lol but it's worth it - absolutely beautiful
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hand waxing the car that is
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