Well I just bought my first ford and its a 99 Mustang Cobra with 55k on it. I plan to put exhaust and a CAI and rims on it right away. Im sure this has been asked before but Im new to these cars and a former F-body guy. I heard that you need a tuner after CAI because it will run lean otherwise. Is this true?
Also I read somewhere that you cannot put the supercharger from an 03 or 04 Cobra onto a 99 Cobra. Is this true? Why? The thing I read said because SOHC vs DOHC but I thought all the 4.6's were DOHC? I found this but Im guessing it won't work or it would cost more. Thanks for the help, flame away with "we get this every week" and "is it Tuesday already?" FORD Mustang COBRA 4.6 SUPERCHARGER 2003-2004 NICE:eBay Motors (item 150380693022 end time Oct-22-09 09:07:06 PDT)
Lol don't worry about flaming, that rarely happens on here. Welcome man!
Nice car! My friend is looking at a '99 with 73k on it. The guy is asking $10k... How much did you snag yours with less miles for?
Sorry for jacking your thread haha. The Cobra my friend is looking at has a BBK CAI with out a tune & runs fine... But a tuner will allow you to get a lot more power.
I have no clue what to tell you about the Terminator (03-04) blower... I'm interested in an answer as well.
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All cobras from 96-99,01, 03-04 have DOHC /32 valve heads. The 03/04 supercharger shouldn't be used because the 03/04 blocks and internals were built to take boost. Your block is aluminum (although I don't think the block is the issue), theirs is iron. Your internals (here's the issue) are of the cast variety, theirs are forged including Manley connecting rods. I would say it can be done and has been done, but only with low boost and a good tuner to keep it together. I'm thinking you should be ok with a CAI without a tune since the MAF should calculate for increased air flow but Let some of other cobra brotherhood chime in. Brutal Metal should have some tips.
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Your typical Terminator with all the usual mods Ford meant for you to do right after you left the showroom.
Lol don't worry about flaming, that rarely happens on here. Welcome man!
Nice car! My friend is looking at a '99 with 73k on it. The guy is asking $10k... How much did you snag yours with less miles for?
Sorry for jacking your thread haha. The Cobra my friend is looking at has a BBK CAI with out a tune & runs fine... But a tuner will allow you to get a lot more power.
I have no clue what to tell you about the Terminator (03-04) blower... I'm interested in an answer as well.
Mine is completely stock and Im not sure if its ever had the SVT recall work done on it either. Ill call and find out after I pick it up tonight. Mine is also a convertible. I got it for 10,100.00. I would say a screaming deal but we will see if there are any hidden issues. Carfax was clean and it was one owner so I think Im safe.
All cobras from 96-99,01, 03-04 have DOHC /32 valve heads. The 03/04 supercharger shouldn't be used because the 03/04 blocks and internals were built to take boost. Your block is aluminum (although I don't think the block is the issue), theirs is iron. Your internals (here's the issue) are of the cast variety, theirs are forged including Manley connecting rods. I would say it can be done and has been done, but only with low boost and a good tuner to keep it together. I'm thinking you should be ok with a CAI without a tune since the MAF should calculate for increased air flow but Let some of other cobra brotherhood chime in. Brutal Metal should have some tips.
So the issue really isnt whether it will work on the car but how long it will work for before the piston, rods, or both let go. I guess my next question then would be, what is missing that I will need to do the conversion from that ebay auction I listed above? Are there any build threads around that go into detail on this conversion?
If it will bolt onto my car I don't see any reason not to put it on in stock form and have it tuned. I think I read somewhere that the internals will be just fine up to approximately 12psi. I dont know if that is correct just info I found while doing a little searching.
Ben
I spend a lot of time on Pirate4x4.com so I was expecting a lot more flaming for my newbie questions.
I'm thinking you should be ok with a CAI without a tune since the MAF should calculate for increased air flow but
The problem is that the maf is calibrated for the specific intake. Remember that it only measures a piece of air the size of a grain of rice. Any differences in the laminar flow will alter the transfer function. Some CAIs might be fine, but some will require a tune.
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I spend a lot of time on Pirate4x4.com so I was expecting a lot more flaming for my newbie questions.
Those guys flame so hard! IMHO they are a bunch of rednecks and don't know much about anything other than backyard fabrication.
12 psi might push the limits of the stock internals. I'd shoot for 10 if you don't plan on getting a new engine.
Those guys flame so hard! IMHO they are a bunch of rednecks and don't know much about anything other than backyard fabrication.
They are very hard on simple or repeated questions but I would definitely say that there are some extremely knowledgeable people over there. I'm not sure when the last time you were over there but go check out a Billavista tech article or one of the KOH build threads. I bet that would change your opinion. There are rednecks in every motorsport making others look bad but that is not the norm unless maybe you are in the mud section.
It looks like there are a lot more parts that I would still need which means a lot more money so Ill probably hold off and drive the car for a while. I just thought if I could do it for cheap then I would.
Skip any Eaton conversion, if you want a blower just get a Kenne Bell ($4100 + install labor, guages = $6100), it's much better and made to go on your engine, yeah if you want to get crazy you will need forged pistons/rods ($2500+) among a long list of other expensive add ons (MAF, injectors, throttle body, fuel pump, chip and tune &2500), after all is said and done you might as well sell your car and just buy the Terminator, you will spend about the same but have alot more (6 spd and IRS)...trust me, I know, I've been there...oh not to mention the suspension and exhaust mods that will be necessary too (another $5000), so add $16,000 + to your car and decide if it's for you...personally if I had it to do over I clearly wouldn't but it was a gradual process so it didn't seem too bad, but now that I look back it's not a good value...tuner still wants me to add 03 cobra heads/cams, and the forged lower end...geez, just another $5000, what recession? I'm a one man stimulus plan. Oh by the way, a 500 hp 351 stroker motor alone can be built for $7500
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That Ebay auction price is a JOKE, I've seen Eaton's sell for less than $400. If you have a wrecked 03-04 Cobra handy I'd go with an Eaton conversion, if not the expense and hassle picking up every bolt and bracket,pullies,alternator,intercooler,etc...will be a hassle, it's not a simple bolt on blower for the 96-01's!
Yeah those are Killer Deals for guys that want to send them out for porting, then they pull their stock one of and sell that, it's the reason why you see them all the time on Ebay and classifieds!
Supercharging a 1999 Mustang Cobra 
