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ok, so i have an 2001 Cobra, i want to buy a kennebell blower for it, and i know i dont NEED to do this but i want to and its a good idea, b4 i get the blower i would get my engine rebuilt with forged pistons and rods, how ever i have a few questions, first, on rods, i look at them online and are there diffrent ones id need? like diffrent sizes? and pistons, ic dished ones and flat head ones, which would i want? and why? what would dished do? im not looking to make a 900HP killing machine, maybe just 450-650 hp. so i guess just some basic info on this would help! thanks!
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Well you basically need stock length rod replacement but a forged one, go with the H beam, they are the strongest, for pistons you should really work with an engine builder to decide compression, etc....I'm doing this exact thing to my 96, I have the kenne bell already, but upgrading the block: using stock Terminator forged pistons with forged H beam rods in stock length....don't forget to upgrade your fuel system..good luck, let us know how it goes. (alternatively you might consider selling your car and buying a Terminator, you will spend at least $10K to do all this...also to get to the hp you want with a Kenne Bell you will need intercooling, now you will need 03 Mach/Cobra heads and intake and a full intercooling system...ahh, just another $2K!) Sell the car, buy the Terminator, you'll be better off
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Oh yeah, do you have headers and exhaust? If not, add another $1500, then you will need to upgrade the suspension, add another $2500...people have no idea what they are getting into when they "just want to add a supercharger"...I'm telling everyone this because I started out the same way, now that I'm in this far I feel like I signed a contract with the devil...
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Geez now that I've added all that up it's $16,000, you literally could keep your car and buy the Terminator and have two cars for what you have in mind.
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Found this long block made for the 2003 supercharged motor at Downs Ford. Cost $6500 and give you an idea.
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An idea of what Dave? How to spend even more money? You can rebuild your short block for about $2-3000, of course you still need the supercharger and all supporting mods... might as well swap in a used Terminator motor with the Eaton, they are $5000 all day on Ebay
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Geez now that I've added all that up it's $16,000, you literally could keep your car and buy the Terminator and have two cars for what you have in mind.
That's what I did lol
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An idea of what Dave? How to spend even more money? You can rebuild your short block for about $2-3000, of course you still need the supercharger and all supporting mods... might as well swap in a used Terminator motor with the Eaton, they are $5000 all day on Ebay
I know what you're saying in adding up everything but that price of $6500 does come as a new block with the heads included and all. I really don't like any used motor/blower off E-bay. To each his own!
New forged short block and the TVS 2300 installed for under $15,300, right at Roush. Stock 3v heads, stock exhaust manifolds but around 500-508 rwhp.
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Dave a whole 03-04 car with 6 spd and IRS is about the same price! The upgrades/swap is just not a good financial move..if it's emotional, go for it! You still have to spend and upgrade the exhaust and suspension...the Terminator is always the best alternative...
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well, all made good points but FYI, i have BBK long tube headers, BBK H-pipe and flowmaster cat back, and BBK cold air kit, and a Short throw shifter and i have 1.5" lowering springs from eibach.
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I don't mind buying used off ebay, just need to make sure it has a warranty and they are legit. I would check it all out when it got to my house. did this for my 03 5.4 swap in my 97 Saleen and ran great with zero problems.
A used Terminator engine would be a great/cheaper route to go.
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If you find a set of Manley H beams used in good shape with low miles and a Nice price I'd grab em, but as far as pistons go I'd want new!
And 2manystangs tell your engine builder the stock 03-04 Z pistons are prone to expand and have ringland issues from heat with excessive boost, have him gap your rings accordingly!
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