HEY GUYS, what do you guys think is the best for cold air intake. some people say stay away from chrome ones due to the fact they get hot and can make your car suck in hot air. also would buying one with the MAF adapter be good or go with one that has a larger one. would there be any differances such as calabration? its for a 99 cobra
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Seems that a metal/chrome intake would counteract some of the intended effect by conducting engine bay heat, though I haven't seen any imperical testing to confirm, the physics make sense.
Seems a Ram Air type kit would be nice if supercharging isn't in the picture. Of course, a quality high flow filter element and pulling the air in from outside the engine bay would be best as well. How about the March Ram Air Kit, anyone have input, especially dyno numbers on that kit?
Yeah, the Ram Air effect wouldn't be seen on the dyno without the high speed airflow, but at least it would indicate if it is doing at least as much as a non-ram type kit. I guess timeslip or laptime results would be the real test of a ram air setup.
i dont think you have to worry about the air warming up in a chrome CAI, the air isnt going to be in the intake long enough for it to warm up. there are a several threads on this subject, try doing a search im sure youll find plenty of info.
I almost bit into the heating effect myself. If you are pulling the air from an isolated spot (not influenced by the heat of the engine) regardless of the thermal mass of the intake pipe the air will still be cooler than the part it is moving through. I had a BBK CAI intake but removed it for two reasons (stalling when comming to a stop, and it hit the strut tower when power shifting). The stalling was due to a defective AIC solinoid and a miss aligned throttle stop position. Strange enough, I noticed that the exhaust was more quiet with the CAI than the stock plastic stuff (hence a third reason). Most recently I replaced the exhaust with an improved reduction in back pressure and decided to put the CAI back into place. WOW what a difference that made. The upper pipe on the BBK intake is no longer chrome plated since I modified the spot where it hit the strut tower (hammered it to bend the pipe) It no longer hits the strut tower. Time to sand it down, then paint it to match the rest of the parts under the hood. (for those who have the same kit, use care in bending the pipe since it is a cast aluminum which may crack if overstressed). The chrome plating on the upper section of the BBK kit was a bit cheesy anyway. After grinding down the ends and putting a dent in the area where it hit the strut tower, it now moves better when under load without loading the throttle body or hitting the AC plubing. Just a note, any CAI will not provide much gain unless you can free up some back pressure in the exhuast. Since you have a 99, I am certain you fixed that issue by now.
I am finally convinced that the BBK is not worth the money. Eventhough I modified it for fit, It still strikes the strut tower. So far, only the stock plastic seems to work best, besides that, the bend in the pipe concentrates the air flow into the MAF rather than diverting it past it as compared to the almost striaght pipe arrangement of the BBK. It is diffucult to say (but more than likely the cause) that the center post within the MAF housing is the cause for the poor poerformance when using the stock MAF components with after market CAI. I would be willing to buy a C&L MAF if I was convinced that will make an improvement. I would soon rather run the stock intake than to experience another detonation or engine stall due to air flow characteristics at High RPM. I have done just about every thing concievable without having to re-flash the chip. For now I am a non CAI believer (although while it was working it was nice) up until the point of traveling in excess of 80MPH suffering from pre-ignition which caused a backfire. I did not realize what hit me until I saw my bolt on filter bouncing along the highway behind me. It felt like I ran into a brick wall for that split second. Other than that, the motor is running fine. I sure hope I did not pop a hole in the head gasket. Strangely enough, the pipes were cold to the touch after returning home (that was a first) I think it worked better without the filter attached. If I ever decide to use that kit again, I could alway try to relocate the MAF by 90° towards the fender. But for now it will remain stock until I figure out if I did any damage to the internals.
Snakepit,if you have a Cobra and used the regular in fender CAI, that may be the problem, a friend of mine told me that the reg in fender ones make the DOHC engine run kinda lean,That is why I ended going with the UPR Powertube,It is a lil shorter and does not go into the fender ,also I went with a PRO-M Racing 80mm MAF, and a UPR BigMouth filter with the open end,it really works great,no problems...Here is where I got mine. http://www.sandhperformanceparts.com/MUPRPWRTUB01.html This guy also is very helpful and knows alot about Mustangs he has 2 or 3 drag cars...
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anyone here try a cold air from western motorsports? i'm thinking about buying one for an '02 GT
but i don't really know anything the company other than their web site.
Thanks for the tip Nazz. It sure looks like there will be proper flex with the larger silicon connectors. The price is far greater a steel than what I paid for the BBK 2 years ago. Did you opt for the re-programming too? I am looking for an upgrade but after the BBK experience I am a bit skeptical.
I have a diablo deltachip, it did not require reprogramming, as I understand only certain mods. require reprogramming this chip,I was told that I could install an x pipe,65mm dual throttle body, MSD ignition system,without a reprogram,but for like cams or inside engine work then I would have to send my chip in, hope this helps...
Thanks for the tip Nazz. It sure looks like there will be proper flex with the larger silicon connectors. The price is far greater a steel than what I paid for the BBK 2 years ago. Did you opt for the re-programming too? I am looking for an upgrade but after the BBK experience I am a bit skeptical.
Here is a picture of mine installed,it was'nt as difficult as I thought it would be to squeeze it in between the strut tower brace,only a bit of twisting turning and "F" words. the 80mm MAF that you can get with it is good ,but I am pretty sure the Cobras came with a 80mm MAF, if you decide to get the Powerertube from Shane, it comes with a bigmouth filter these are really nice,just be careful and do not overtighten the filter,just snug it a bit. I broke one,lol....Oh and they are black instead of that chrome looking crap. http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...sort/1/cat/500
this is what Steeda has to say. "Steeda's new cold air high-flow intake for the 03 Cobra features a 9" high-flow reusable dual cone filter with more surface area than single cone models to flow the most air. The Steeda air intake features a stainless steel heat shield that covers more of the filter area; shielding more of the air from the heat than the competitions models. This intake is good for 10 to 15 RWHP on a stock Cobra and has been dyno tested in our Pompano Beach facility to add up to 25 RWHP on a modified Cobra. All the necessary hardware is included for a hassle free bolt-on installation." www.steeda.com
Chicane Sport Tuning just released a new cold air intake kit for Fox Body Mustangs. Pretty cool design! From what I have seen, it looks to be the best available on the market for 87-93 Mustangs. It eliminates the bending and serves the air straight from the outer fender directly to the mass air meter without bends. Often wondered why someone did'nt think of doing something like this before.
anyone here try a cold air from western motorsports? i'm thinking about buying one for an '02 GT
but i don't really know anything the company other than their web site.
I've got one in my '03 Cobra, I've seen a dyno chart showing it to be worth 19 RWHP on a similar car. The installation was half an hour's work, looks great, and it sounds way better than the stock setup. I don't know off-hand how restrictive your stock setup is, and so I couldn't guess how much power you'd pick up. As for WMS, I've had nothing but good experiences with them, so I'd say go for it. Cheers. Jim.
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