forgive me if this is a dumb question. im sure i knew it before, but know im confused. what size is the stock maf in a 96-98 cobra? i thought it was 80mm. c&l sells 80mm maf's for my cobra. so, are the stock units smaller? like 70 or 75mm? thanks fellas, im feeling a little dim witted right now. also if it is smaller than 80mm, is it worth me upgrading to an 80? what kinda hp can i expect? 3-5 rwhp maybe?
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1998 SVT Cobra #4941 of 5174 built on June 19,1998
4.30s, Speedcal, WMS CAI, Pro 5.0 shifter, Sniper Tuner, March pulleys, Mac O/R H pipe, Flowmaster orig. 40's, King Cobra clutch, D/S rotors, FRPP 9mm's, Max. Motorsports C/C plates, Termy front control arms, H&R SS springs, MM solid steering rack bushings, Tokico HP struts and shocks, Mac subrames, HID Bi-Xenon 6000k kit, Saleen 18" wheels, Saleen S-281 spoiler, sequential tails
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I own a 94 cobra, so I do not know to much about 96-98's, but I am pretty sure that the stock one is 80mm too. If your MAF is anything like the 94-95's then ours is a 70mm stock, but it has a big shaft that runs down the middle of it. Taking up about a quarter of that 70mm. So your 80mm might have a "shaft" in the way or some other obstructions, whereas the aftermarket MAF's are perfectly smooth.
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'94 Rio Red Cobra Mustang/15k miles
04/04/05-MAC 1 5/8 ceramic coated longtubes, MAC 2 1/2 durablack O/R H, Flowmaster American Thunder 2 1/2 Catback (S/S tips)
06/02/05-70mm BBK T/B, 76mm C&L MAS/intake system
01/31/06-FRPP 3.55's, GMS upper/lower control arms
I've enbarked on a never ending battle; to be the sh*t!
N.O.S. it's like a hott chick with an STD. You want to hit it, but your afraid of the consequences.
doen't anyone know this? i thought it was an easy one.
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1998 SVT Cobra #4941 of 5174 built on June 19,1998
4.30s, Speedcal, WMS CAI, Pro 5.0 shifter, Sniper Tuner, March pulleys, Mac O/R H pipe, Flowmaster orig. 40's, King Cobra clutch, D/S rotors, FRPP 9mm's, Max. Motorsports C/C plates, Termy front control arms, H&R SS springs, MM solid steering rack bushings, Tokico HP struts and shocks, Mac subrames, HID Bi-Xenon 6000k kit, Saleen 18" wheels, Saleen S-281 spoiler, sequential tails
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I just went through this with my 98 Cobra. It is an 80mm from the factory. But the C&L 80mm is shaped different, smoother, and the sample tube is removed. And it calibrated by them for your car.
Trust me, it makes a HUGE power difference. I highly recommend it. I woke my car up. I have no dyno to prove it, but I'm guessing I picked up 15RWHP from it. I race a friend of mines 98GT on a weekly basis. I pulled an extra car length on him after the install. and I still do every week. He noticed my car being faster, so it wasn't just my buttometer.
C&L has a dyno chart with the upgrade on a 98 Cobra, and I think it showed something like 17hp gain at the wheels.
I'm pretty impressed with it. I went with the Filter/MAF combo.
I plan to have my car dyno tuned, because I think it is running lean. This may be the only draw back to the mod. But once dyno tuned, it will pull even more power, so it can only go up from there.
Hope this helps
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thanks for the help glen. has anyone removed there sample tube from there stock MAM? im thinking of doing this, but i'm afraid my car won't run right. then im SCREWED!
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1998 SVT Cobra #4941 of 5174 built on June 19,1998
4.30s, Speedcal, WMS CAI, Pro 5.0 shifter, Sniper Tuner, March pulleys, Mac O/R H pipe, Flowmaster orig. 40's, King Cobra clutch, D/S rotors, FRPP 9mm's, Max. Motorsports C/C plates, Termy front control arms, H&R SS springs, MM solid steering rack bushings, Tokico HP struts and shocks, Mac subrames, HID Bi-Xenon 6000k kit, Saleen 18" wheels, Saleen S-281 spoiler, sequential tails
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80mm is stock. Difference between stock and aftermarket is in the modifications made to enhance/smooth out flow.
If you've had your gear on a dyno and its flow-restricted (happens if you swap in big cams, for instance, or go with super/turbo chargers), good after-market mass air unit will help you out.
If you're still stock internally and na, mass air may make a small difference, given that the stock unit is restrictive. Also, it may make virtually no difference, if the stock unit was able to flow all the air your engine needed.
If you havent pulled some time on a dyno, you spends your money and you takes your chances.
has anyone removed there sample tube from there stock MAM? im thinking of doing this, but i'm afraid my car won't run right. then im SCREWED!
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1998 SVT Cobra #4941 of 5174 built on June 19,1998
4.30s, Speedcal, WMS CAI, Pro 5.0 shifter, Sniper Tuner, March pulleys, Mac O/R H pipe, Flowmaster orig. 40's, King Cobra clutch, D/S rotors, FRPP 9mm's, Max. Motorsports C/C plates, Termy front control arms, H&R SS springs, MM solid steering rack bushings, Tokico HP struts and shocks, Mac subrames, HID Bi-Xenon 6000k kit, Saleen 18" wheels, Saleen S-281 spoiler, sequential tails
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Don't think anyone out here has circumcised their mass air. Suspect this would wreck its function. Also suspect if they had done it, they'd be ashamed to admit it.
Fun to know for sure, though.
If you try the experiment let us know what you find out. Might be able to find a cheap mass air in a junkyard...
Don't think anyone out here has circumcised their mass air. Suspect this would wreck its function. Also suspect if they had done it, they'd be ashamed to admit it.
Fun to know for sure, though.
If you try the experiment let us know what you find out. Might be able to find a cheap mass air in a junkyard...
tripleblack
its definitely been done. and why the hell would anyone be ashamed to admit it? why would it wreck its function? have you ever looked at the inside of a MAF? its got a large tube going straight through it.
infact, there's a "how'to" article hear on the site. i wonder if they are ashamed its on the site? http://www.allfordmustangs.com/Detailed/51.shtml
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1998 SVT Cobra #4941 of 5174 built on June 19,1998
4.30s, Speedcal, WMS CAI, Pro 5.0 shifter, Sniper Tuner, March pulleys, Mac O/R H pipe, Flowmaster orig. 40's, King Cobra clutch, D/S rotors, FRPP 9mm's, Max. Motorsports C/C plates, Termy front control arms, H&R SS springs, MM solid steering rack bushings, Tokico HP struts and shocks, Mac subrames, HID Bi-Xenon 6000k kit, Saleen 18" wheels, Saleen S-281 spoiler, sequential tails
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All you need is a dremel tool and some time. It works great. We've all done this and are hiding it from you so our cars will run better than yours.
The guys selling aftermarket mam's for your car are just out to take your money. They hope nobody figures out how easy it is to fix the oem item. Heck, you don't even need a dremel tool - a pocket knife will do.
And just like with a circumcision, a little slip can ruin your whole day.
why would it matter if i bought a c%l or of i did it my self? its virtually the same thing.
of course granitelli motorsportsis going to tell you this, they want us to buy there maf's
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1998 SVT Cobra #4941 of 5174 built on June 19,1998
4.30s, Speedcal, WMS CAI, Pro 5.0 shifter, Sniper Tuner, March pulleys, Mac O/R H pipe, Flowmaster orig. 40's, King Cobra clutch, D/S rotors, FRPP 9mm's, Max. Motorsports C/C plates, Termy front control arms, H&R SS springs, MM solid steering rack bushings, Tokico HP struts and shocks, Mac subrames, HID Bi-Xenon 6000k kit, Saleen 18" wheels, Saleen S-281 spoiler, sequential tails
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stock maf size? 
