[ttstroker]

Hey guys, I am rebuilding my engine as we speak. In the next few weeks I will have the proof that I need to prove my case about MBR. I am willing to go after him as soon as I find out just what he sold me.

[70gt500]

Way to go!

My $15,000 MBR 5.1 880hp (hmmmm...) stroker is going to a real shop (mmr NOT mbr) this week.

Modular Mustang Racing

I should know how much of my $15,000 went into the motor, and how much into the Tracy McAllister Early Retirement Fund. I'm out at least $3,000 for the FAST EFI system Tracy took and never delivered. Add to that whatever BS Chris and Mark find out going through my motor at Modular Mustang Racing and I will have my claim. Nubies please post your total cash amounts Tracy owes you so we can get accurate and realistic legal action together.

[StreetracerDK]

I also used to reach them on phone but now there is no answer on phone and no emails. $16000 is not a less money because I work for my money. there are so many mustang owners in Us and in the state where Tracy is so please help us. I dont know anything about which attorney to use or any kind of information, Please help us.

I ordered this engine when my engine was siezed and now its over a year my car is at a garage, I miss my mustang so much.

[StreetracerDK]

If you guys see the emails from chris before payment and after payment you will be shocked.

Last time I wrote him an email that I need my engine or I will talk to an attorny.. He said you can do whatever you want.

[2003turbocobra]

thats why i deal with d.s.s., tom is a great guy and has always delivered. last longblock i ordered only took 2 weeks to hit my doorstep..

[70gt500]

Joe was good enough to write his story and couldn't get it to post (anti-Chevy filter?) he forwarded me the copy,so I'll post it.


Greetings Ford Folk:

My name is Joe and I own the shop that "Low 11s" refers to in his post on
the first page. Having done many Corvettes both old and new Aaron asked if I
would consider working on his Mustang for him. I was more than happy to do
the work and started to put together a package based on what his goals were.

Forged Supercharged Motor
Headers, freeflow cats and mufflers
5 Speed TKO600
HD Clutch
New complete Fuel System
6 point roll gage
New Corbeau Seats
All new gauges
Nitrous (Purge and Intercooler Spray)
Rear Seat Delete
New Tubular control arms front and back
New Brembo front brake upgrade
New rear Cobra Brake Upgrade
Camber braces
Welded Subframe Connectors
etc. etc. etc.

Not having the same sources as I did for GM products I did some research at
the time and several sources pointed me to MBR. I called Tracy to discuss
what was needed, we struck a deal, and the project started.

Up to a point it was a "tolerable experience". Parts dribbled in but things
were missing. The intake on the motor was cracked in shipping, the front
cover of the motor was from a truck not a Mustang and thinking it went with
the blower setup and idlers/pulleys we didn't find out that was not going to
work until we had the car just about complete. Many of the Supercharger
parts were missing and the intercooler was a universal mount, not specific
to the GT.

For the record, they did send me a new intake, a new front cover, I finally
got the missing parts, and Tracy gave me a credit card to run through to get
the money back on all the SC parts I had to buy to make it work. At that
point all correspondence came to a halt. Chris lied on the phone for Tracy
and tech support was zip although full support was promised (as well as a
12month/12000 warranty on the motor which I have in writing). I saved every
email AND FAX.

The first big issue came when I was promised a new ECM with a suitable tune
for the motor and SC. That didn't happen. They then arranged to have it
tuned by a shop in New Jerser (Level 10) but then at the last minute they
backed out and I could get no real info as to why. Tracy agreed to pay for
it ($900) and I spent two days of my time hauling it to a shop in Hartford,
Ct. I also paid for the tuning at the time.

The tuning didn't go well though. We could not get the car to run right so I
hauled it all the way back to my shop again. We ran a compression check and
had a dead cylinder. We tore the top of the motor down to find that a valve
(probably cheap Chinese two piece) broke in half and litereally went through
the top of the piston and looked like a mushroom coming out of it. (See pic
in Low 11s post, I took that).

Numerous follow-up attempts to contact Tracy/MBR have been useless. In my
book, and especially after having read the horrow stories, hat MBR has done
is a disservice to all the reputable shops out there and I am not done with
him yet.

At our expense, we pulled the motor and as Aaron (Low 11s) stated the motor
is being completely gone over, parts checked for quality, all clearances
checked, all new stainless valves, etc. by the best machine shop in the
area. The tune will then be finished in Ct. All of this is coming out of our
pocket and all I can do is thank Aaron for being patient with us under the
circumstances. This is embarrassing for me as I have never had a situation
like this. But it is certainly not Aaron's fault and I would not take a dime
to make it right. I will do whatever it takes to make him a satisfied
customer and worry about MBR later.

The last I spoke with them I got the story that Tracy was sick and would get
back to me. I've had my share of health problems (torn elbows and surgery,
blood clots in the lungs, and pneumonia) and been in and out of hospitals,
but that is not my customer's problem and I need to do whatever it takes to
make it right. Aaron will have his car and get to enjoy it for the summer.


Thanks,

Joe..

Corvette Tech, Inc.
joe@vettetech.com

If I posted them correctly, the pics below show that we were done and this
puppy was ready to rock.

http://www.vettetech.com/projects/96.../am051507b.jpg
http://www.vettetech.com/projects/96.../am042707a.jpg

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[VetteTech]

Thanks for posting that Mark. If this reply takes, I'll be surprised.

Joe..

[VetteTech]

Just a follow-up for anyone interested. I contacted the Virginia Dept of Consumer Affairs. In my case because it was business to business my attorney will have to be the one to go after them in my case and we will pursue that. But for those individuals that purchased from MBR I highly recommend if you haven't to contact the number below. The more information that have right now, the better.

Category: Motor Vehicles
Topic: Auto Service and Repairs

To file a complaint or seek resolution of a dispute, contact this agency for additional information and assistance.

Office of Consumer Affairs
Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services

Mailing address:
PO Box 1163
Richmond, VA 23218 Toll Free: 800-552-9963
Phone number: 804-786-2042
Fax number: 804-225-2666

[70gt500]

MMR has started on the MBR motor. My $15,000 custom motor is thrown together old junk. The new 03-04 cobra block is a actually a used block. The 32v stage 3 ported heads with custom ground cams are in fact untouched factory normalos with new valve covers. I like I too am out more than $3,000 FAST EFI System that never came. More to come as the autopsy continues.....

[VetteTech]

Originally Posted by 70gt500

MMR has started on the MBR motor. My $15,000 custom motor is thrown together old junk. The new 03-04 cobra block is a actually a used block. The 32v stage 3 ported heads with custom ground cams are in fact untouched factory normalos with new valve covers. I like I too am out more than $3,000 FAST EFI System that never came. More to come as the autopsy continues.....

Just some more info in our situation.

Besides one busted valve the first time we started the motor all valves (intake and exhaust) were hitting the pistons. They did install Probe Forged Pistons but a number of them were installed with the offset incorrect. So we had to buy 8 new flycut pistons and all new valves. We might have been able to salvage a couple of pistons but not worth the effort.

More to come as the autopsy continues.....

[Low 11s]

I hope the other victims here will take action soon. I have one question for the other victims, how did you guys here about MBR.

[Low 11s]

Bah Fleethum Fotum Rott!

[StreetracerDK]

we heard about MBR from ebay.. and that was the worst day of my life..

[70gt500]

Or in other words, the autopsy on my piece of S£!%! from Tracy performed by Chris of Modular Mustang Racing

First of all, any of you who want to deal with a builder who will actually do what he promises should treat themselves to a motor from Chris at MMR.

Here's the story in more detail: I bought from Tracy an 880hp (dyno promised) brand new 5.1 terminator motor with stage 3 heads, a whipple supercharger and a FAST system. Upgraded MBR camshafts Probe forged pistons, Kellogg 4340 forged crankshaft, Scat 4340 forged H-Beam rods, extensive porting was promised.

15 grand later (and two years, 3 months waiting for delivery) I got a factory spec'ed USED block, and untouched factory heads and camshafts with the cheapest eagle stroker kit tossed in. Just bolted together. No silicon sealing. Only 4 teeth on the trigger wheel. The motor had never been fired, and could never be fired as delivered. Obviously it was never dyno-ed, which I paid for. The motor as delivered isn't even compatible with the FAST EFI system. Which makes perfect sense since Tracy stiffed me and never delivered the FAST EFI system anyway.

I bought the motor from Tracy on E-Bay December 12 of 2005. His excuse for the low price was that he deals in such a large volume of new Ford parts that he needed to clear out some inventory at the years end. The funny thing is the only new part in the motor was an Eagle stroker kit that wasn't even offered at the time.

I'm not sure how to figure out what he'd owe me, as if he'd have the money anyway. I could have bought the parts he gave me for about 6 grand. But I never ordered any of that used or cheap crap and I don't want it for my build. I'm just going to have to start over, I could keep the Whipple. So I got $3500 out of the $15000 I spent. If I pay MMR to rebuild the MBR motor and do it right, then I could get something from selling that.

I guess I did better than some of you. I'll file the complaint, and will help with an attorney. For my sake, what do you guys think I'm owed?

Just the dollar amount please, not all the "Tracy's head on a platter" stuff we all feel....

[Low 11s]

I feel he owes you what he promised. He owes you at least $12,000 minimum. Don't forget the expenses it cost you to actually find out what you really got. If he can get you the money and you return the turd minus the Whipple charger he owes you $12,000. If you keep the set up I feel he needs to refund you about $8000. You figure a Whipple Charger is about $3500, a used Terminator engine about $3000, Eagle stroker kit $2500 = $8000. Attorney fees, court cost and your time spent away from work, plus the aggravation of dealing with a dishonest business man he should owe you about $12,000.