[luis5422]

wich one would be better to have and do u have to have any modificationgs if u put any one of them

[Cobrajet67]

better is a point of view really. some kits are complete with everything you need, others will require other upgrades first-like a water pump. turbos are usually MUCH more expensive and less are available in general.

[cmaurer1]

Turbo's make more power but I think that a supercharger is more of a usable power source than a Turbo is unless you are a decent driver.

[Shine1Stang]

some kits are complete with everything you need, others will require other upgrades first-like a water pump.

Originally Posted by cmaurer1

Turbo's make more power but I think that a supercharger is more of a usable power source than a Turbo is unless you are a decent driver.

What??? I dont even know what to say.
Just disregard the last two posts. Both of the poweradders will need some upgrades. Fuel, drivetrain ect. It also depends on how much power is being put thru. More power more mods needed.
As far as which one is better, thats a personal preference. Turbos are spooled by the exhaust gases that your engine already produces. Superchargers are belt driven and take from your engine to make more power. I read somewhere that at like 17psi it takes 70 hp from your engine.

[kscoyote]

Originally Posted by Shine1Stang

What??? I dont even know what to say.
Just disregard the last two posts. Both of the poweradders will need some upgrades. Fuel, drivetrain ect. It also depends on how much power is being put thru. More power more mods needed.
As far as which one is better, thats a personal preference. Turbos are spooled by the exhaust gases that your engine already produces. Superchargers are belt driven and take from your engine to make more power. I read somewhere that at like 17psi it takes 70 hp from your engine.

yeah, but it also adds a few hundred horsepower.

Bottom line is generally the type of power, reliability, and maintenance.

SC's generally are easier of the rotating assembly, build power more progressively and controllably, and make more power lower in the RPM range -which is why they're generally more favored for road and track.

Turbos make much more power higher in the power band, and will definitely outrun pretty much any other power adder at teh strip.

So it really comes down to preference and intended use (not counting costs, which favor SC applications over turbos . .. )

[ESG-642T]

Turbos normally will out run whatever .....

[shinerstang]

Dudes........

What are you talking about???? Water pump? Usable power source?

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Originally Posted by shinerstang

Dudes........

What are you talking about???? Water pump? Usable power source?

All your base are belong to US!!!!! ?

[cmaurer1]

Hmmm... I love the insight these threads give.

A supercharged car is easier to drive than a turbo'd car in my opinion. Sure Turbo's make more power than superchargers and easier but the way the power comes in is vastly different...

Can you argue that a supercharged engine that has nearly all of its power off the line is not easier to drive than a turbo'd car that builds boost and then nearly instantly gives you 100-200 more hp? I would drive a supercharged car over a turbo car any day of the week. It takes a while to get used to how a turbo'd car delivers it power.

Also at 17psi on any supercharger you are going to be making more power than you could use unless you are a 1/4 mile monster.

[ESG-642T]

Originally Posted by cmaurer1

Hmmm... I love the insight these threads give.

A supercharged car is easier to drive than a turbo'd car in my opinion. Sure Turbo's make more power than superchargers and easier but the way the power comes in is vastly different...

Can you argue that a supercharged engine that has nearly all of its power off the line is not easier to drive than a turbo'd car that builds boost and then nearly instantly gives you 100-200 more hp? I would drive a supercharged car over a turbo car any day of the week. It takes a while to get used to how a turbo'd car delivers it power.

Also at 17psi on any supercharger you are going to be making more power than you could use unless you are a 1/4 mile monster.

You know most turbo cars are tuned properly now days, with proper sized turbos.... And that argument would have to be roots/screw type blowers have nearly all power off the line, as centri's act like turbos...

I don't know what you mean buy making more power than you could use however?

[cmaurer1]

I know that centri's act like turbo's by the way that they build their boost...

Of course most turbo cars are properly tuned... I would not want to drive one that wasn't. lol Have you ever driven a high horsepower turbo car? By high horsepower I mean over 400rwhp. When the boost kicks in from the turbo it usually adds nearly 100-200rwhp all at once and that takes some serious driver's skill to use.

Of course if you have a smaller horsepower output then it is not going to be as drastic. I assumed that we were talking about goals higher than 250rwhp since we were discussing whether a supercharger or turbocharger will make more power.

How much power do you think you would be sitting at on 17psi on a V6? What about a V8? Do you honestly think that you could use all of that power on the street. My point in bringing that up was that at 17psi you would not really need the extra 70hp that you are losing from a supercharger. Of course a supercharger has belt driven loss but for most people that is ok since they are gaining so much hp anyway.

[luis5422]

so if i put a supercharger what do i have to do to my v6

[cmaurer1]

Sorry, We seem to veer off the original subject in nearly every post. lol

If I were you I would do a supercharger rather than a turbocharger. The only reason is that their are plenty of different supercharger kits out for the V6 but no one at this time produces a turbo kit for the V6. I think that one guy is doing the kits right now but they are only if you have the money immediately.

If you buy the supercharger kits they usually come with everything that you need to put the supercharger on the engine.

Things you would need are a semi beefed up suspension, dual exhaust, tuner, bigger rims/tires, LSD/(Gears not needed but recommended), upgraded drivetrain. I don't think you would need anything else. Maybe some upgraded driving skills. lol

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Originally Posted by cmaurer1

I know that centri's act like turbo's by the way that they build their boost...

Of course most turbo cars are properly tuned... I would not want to drive one that wasn't. lol Have you ever driven a high horsepower turbo car? By high horsepower I mean over 400rwhp. When the boost kicks in from the turbo it usually adds nearly 100-200rwhp all at once and that takes some serious driver's skill to use.

Of course if you have a smaller horsepower output then it is not going to be as drastic. I assumed that we were talking about goals higher than 250rwhp since we were discussing whether a supercharger or turbocharger will make more power.

How much power do you think you would be sitting at on 17psi on a V6? What about a V8? Do you honestly think that you could use all of that power on the street. My point in bringing that up was that at 17psi you would not really need the extra 70hp that you are losing from a supercharger. Of course a supercharger has belt driven loss but for most people that is ok since they are gaining so much hp anyway.

I have a Grand National sitting here that traps 128 in the quarter, so I'm guessing it has more than 400hp? Its not hard to drive at all, hell my gf has driven it before. [her dad gave it to me infact]

Originally Posted by luis5422

so if i put a supercharger what do i have to do to my v6

Absolute minimum: Tune, Fuel Mods, exhaust.

Originally Posted by cmaurer1

Sorry, We seem to veer off the original subject in nearly every post. lol

If I were you I would do a supercharger rather than a turbocharger. The only reason is that their are plenty of different supercharger kits out for the V6 but no one at this time produces a turbo kit for the V6. I think that one guy is doing the kits right now but they are only if you have the money immediately.

If you buy the supercharger kits they usually come with everything that you need to put the supercharger on the engine.

Things you would need are a semi beefed up suspension, dual exhaust, tuner, bigger rims/tires, LSD/(Gears not needed but recommended), upgraded drivetrain. I don't think you would need anything else. Maybe some upgraded driving skills. lol

Andy makes turbo kits. I don't know what you mean buy having the money immediately. I never knew procharger or vortech had a payment plan? Neither one come complete, the only complete option is a procharger package justin at vmp setup himself.

[mysteed]

Originally Posted by 232Stang

Andy makes turbo kits. I don't know what you mean buy having the money immediately. I never knew procharger or vortech had a payment plan? Neither one come complete, the only complete option is a procharger package justin at vmp setup himself.

I believe you missed another option as well sir.