It also depends on how you start. If you race from a dead stop, then the Eclipse is going to win unless the other guy driving can't launch. If you race him from a roll, you might just get the guy. A CAI and exhaust is a good start, but you probably won't win unless you have steeper gears like 3.73's.
Some of those rice burners can be quick even though they sound like my lawnmower...
This thread is 5 years old lol.
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Not my fault lol, I didn't bother to look at the date. I thought it was recent because of the post before me.
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Sorry guys , have had the same race at the dragstrip with my old 2000 v6 coupe with underdrives , CAI , dual exhaust and tune. I nailed my reaction time and still got me by two cars.......
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what makes me mad is when they do shootouts with domestics, and then just rip us apart.
SCC. did a Cobra R vs something shootout, and the Cobra was obviously the clear winner (MM&FF got mid 12s out of it.) the other car was a mid-low 13 second car. of course SCC staffers are used to driving FWD crapboxes and subsequently they run a mid 13 second e/t in the Cobra and then they proceed to rip the car apart, saying how its inferior.
in one Mustang GT vs Type R shootout they say they enjoyed beating its "pushrod butt." funny thing is that it was an '00 GT.
at least MM&FF gives a non biased opinion about the competition. they were the first to admit that the F-body can destroy the Mustang and even when they did the '03 Cobra vs F-body shootout they still gave the F-body its due credit. They also did a sidebar on the '03 M3 (which they ran high 12s in) and gave it credit, even though it was an import.
Ricer mag staffers are inexperienced, and ignorant in most cases. I'd love to see an MM&FF vs. SCC shootout.
Yeah but the question is did MM&FF ever give props to a European car or Asian car?!??! An F-body is made by Chevrolet not Mitsubishi.
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The latest offense was when they had a ooooh, aaaaah! Skyline in the same magazine as the Cobra and a Focus they're trying to build up to Cobra specs.
The Cobra demolished the Skylihe by every performance measure, and it was a MODDED Skyline!!
I dunno if it was SCC or Super Street, but I laughed for a couple of hours . . .
And was this Skyline a GT-R?!!? IF not its nothing to talk about.
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Do you know anything about Skylines? Ever seen what th R33's can do? They perform just as well as the R34's. The Skyline GT-S's do just as well with a tiny amount of work.
Nearly all of the skylines could kill any similar year GT. The Old R34's can still kill the new GT's...
Why was this old ass thread brought up anyway? And why was the domestic vs. import argument brought up with Chevy/Ford and Nissan?
i have an 01 v6 and i raced a 99 eclipse gs-t turbo and i killed him. all i had was a dual exhaust and that was the only mod that i had on my car. either that guy couldnt drive or my car was just faster. i think that you can beat him though.
like i said before in old threads, there is no way you can beat a turbo with a stock 6. dual exhaust isnt a worth anything when you are facing a car that already has more rwhp stock. and with turbo... well you already know.
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i have an 01 v6 and i raced a 99 eclipse gs-t turbo and i killed him. all i had was a dual exhaust and that was the only mod that i had on my car. either that guy couldnt drive or my car was just faster. i think that you can beat him though.
rasing the bs flag on this one!
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It also depends on how you start. If you race from a dead stop, then the Eclipse is going to win unless the other guy driving can't launch. If you race him from a roll, you might just get the guy. A CAI and exhaust is a good start, but you probably won't win unless you have steeper gears like 3.73's.
Some of those rice burners can be quick even though they sound like my lawnmower...
They aren't that fast unless they've been modded. And it takes more than "rims" "intake" and "exhaust" to make them fsst.
Nothing was particularly fast back then . . They were fast compared to other cars of the time (which aren't fast anymore, either).
It's all rep.
the 94-98 GT cars were considered fast then - get real!
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rasing the bs flag on this one!
You can raise whatever you want - but those cars are 10 years old now. Most are not in anything near new condition, and even new, they weren't particularly fast compared to what's competitive nowadays. -Unless you've watched "The Fast and the Furious" a few too many times.
the few that are fast are heavily modded and not representative of what came out of the factory.
you can pull the BS flag if you want, but it's your own BS that you're gonna plant it in.
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It also depends on how you start. If you race from a dead stop, then the Eclipse is going to win unless the other guy driving can't launch. If you race him from a roll, you might just get the guy. A CAI and exhaust is a good start, but you probably won't win unless you have steeper gears like 3.73's.
Some of those rice burners can be quick even though they sound like my lawnmower...
Wouldn't it be the opposite? I would think that you would have the advantage from a stand still, seeing as it's rwd vs. fwd, if you can launch well. Ontop of that, the turbo wouldn't spool off the line either..
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Wouldn't it be the opposite? I would think that you would have the advantage from a stand still, seeing as it's rwd vs. fwd, if you can launch well. Ontop of that, the turbo wouldn't spool off the line either..
Yeah but the eclipse is a lot lighter, and would probably launch better vs a stock v6. The eclipse also has steeper gears than the mustang. It would be close though.
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it aslo depends on which turbo he has. if he's got the stock 14g turbo and sucks at driving, you have a slight chance. if he has the 16g turbo(newer model eclipse b4 body style change) then you're toast. a friend of mine has a '98 gs-t, threw on a 16g and a front-mount and he's running low low 13's.
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Yeah but the eclipse is a lot lighter, and would probably launch better vs a stock v6. The eclipse also has steeper gears than the mustang. It would be close though.
The Turbo models weighed in at 3000 lbs - the GS at 2900 lbs. AWD models were a couple hundred lbs heavier.
The not much less than a v6 car - but 200 lbs lighter than a 5.0L GT. 400 less than a 4.6L GT.
Sorry, wrong again.
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it aslo depends on which turbo he has. if he's got the stock 14g turbo and sucks at driving, you have a slight chance. if he has the 16g turbo(newer model eclipse b4 body style change) then you're toast. a friend of mine has a '98 gs-t, threw on a 16g and a front-mount and he's running low low 13's.
He's done more than that, or he's going to have some nasty crankwalk issues soon enough.
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mitsubishi should have stuck with the old 6 bolt instead of changing to the 7 in the 4g63. i mean dont get me wrong they are great engines, but like KS said, the crank walk can be terrible.
my buddy whooped my tail in his stock GSX when i fisrt got my mustang. the v6s really dont stand a chance anywhere near stock. my 240sx on the other hand, well thats a whole nother story...
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I haven't found one anywhere NEAR stock to beat me yet, I'm not much afraid of them - your experience may be different
I mean I beat one in my Focus 3x, and he didn't want to wait for me to get my Stang, much after that.
I'm not the least bit afraid of any of the DSM cars, except maybe the new one - I drove that 2x, and it's pretty strong, but I wouldn't be afraid of running one.
One of the new ones tried to walk me on he highway, and couldn't do it - If it can't beat me on the top end, I don't think it's going to launch better. But I haven't raced a new one. Doesn't mean I wouln't.
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He's done more than that, or he's going to have some nasty crankwalk issues soon enough.
That's all I know that he's done himself. I know the guy who had it before him installed a side-mount IC. He could've also built the internals, I don't know for sure.
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