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Old 09-18-2009   #1 (permalink)
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OK, I have 2 questions!

The first question:
I have been driving with these tires for the past year or so, Cooper Zeon 245/45z/R17. Now, whenever I'm driving on the road, let's say in the lane where trucks drive (usually in the middle or slow lane) they leave impressions on the road. My my car will catch onto the impressions and my wheels will turn into the grooves forcing me to try to straighten my car to go straight! Basically, my tires grip too much onto these impressions! Why does it do that? Do I have the wrong tires? How can I fix the problem? It always did this ever since i got the tires and it's driving me nutz and winter is coming soon!! As a side note, as of now, my tred are still good!

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This is another exhaust question, sorry!
Apparently, I have a leak from where the mid pipe bolts onto the catback!! I was told that I need some springs at the bolts?? Is this true?? I'm guessing that these springs are for expansion purposes?? How does one fix an exhaust leak?? Does a leak affect performance?
I want to fix these problems before anything happens, like carbon monoxide poisoningdue to the leak or crash into a tree due to my tires grabbing too much.... or wrose.... both!!! Hope someone understands what I just wrote and sorry if it's not clear.
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actually its because your tires are a little wider. i experienced the same problem with my 245/45R 17's nothing you can do about it unless you go to a stock tire which still may not be skinny enough.
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#1, i think it's common. It's happened to me in several vehicles, different tires.

#2, Does the bolts come loose or it's not aligned right so when you bolt it up, it still leaks? If the bolts are coming loose, then use lock washers. If not aligned right, try to make it align or take it to an exhaust shop so they can tweak it to align right.
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thanks for the responses,
For the tires, I i just find it annoying to grab the steering wheel whenever i see groove marks on the road. I wonder if other cars behind me thinks i'm drunk cause of the swerving. The roads here are not the best due to all the trucks and change in weather!
As for the leak, I haven't had a chance to put it on a lift yet, but noticed that dark streek (smoke residue) on one of the pipes that indicates that there is a leak. It wasn't there before. Hopefully that is the cause of the ticking sound i hear. I will check it after work (Thank GOODNESS IT'S FRIDAY) and check the fittings!!
I appreciate the replies, I will update you all in a bit. If there are any other suggestions, please feel free to post it!
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Yeah I dont know who told you, you need springs in your exhaust but they are full of it.

It will not affect performance, just sound. It does not cause any harm to your car. It can be fixed by welding the pipes together or by finding a way to secure the fittings like already mentioned.
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Yeah I dont know who told you, you need springs in your exhaust but they are full of it.

It will not affect performance, just sound. It does not cause any harm to your car. It can be fixed by welding the pipes together or by finding a way to secure the fittings like already mentioned.
just a couple things... a mechanic that works on a wide variety of cars might assume springs should be fitted on the flange bolts. i've seen some older hyundai's and other random cars that have springs fitted into the flange bolts. it's supposed to help with vibration or whatever...but no, mustangs do not have springs in the exhaust, or even flexpipes for that matter.

and if an exhaust leak is bad enough, you lose backpressure and the result is a vehicle that runs like sh**.
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Thanks for that insight!! Glad I mentioned my problems here before doing anything drastic! Ok, so, no springs... I did notice a difference in preformance quality.... it seemed a little sluggish in 1st and 2nd gear.
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just a couple things... a mechanic that works on a wide variety of cars might assume springs should be fitted on the flange bolts. i've seen some older hyundai's and other random cars that have springs fitted into the flange bolts. it's supposed to help with vibration or whatever...but no, mustangs do not have springs in the exhaust, or even flexpipes for that matter.

and if an exhaust leak is bad enough, you lose backpressure and the result is a vehicle that runs like sh**.
The first point, I did not know so I could understand that. The second point I would have to argue. I have a about the best flowing V6 exhaust you can have with 2.5" piping and even an exhaust leak at the passenger header right now and it does not run like crap. BUT KEEP IN MIND that usually you will lose a bit of low end TQ BUT its replaced back into the higher RPMs. But I dont really consider that "running like crap".

so I speak from expirence when I say it wont really affect perfomance. HOWEVER If the leak is big enough, and I mean BIG enough its possible to lose enough back preasure to have slight issues.

Of course I speak from personal stand point with the mods I have. I cant say from the standpoint of a lightly modified V6.
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remember there is a difference between free-flowing and leaking.

i remember when my passenger header broke off at the flange, it ran like a turd. your exhaust leak is likely very mild if it's not the very next thing on your to-do list. a full-on "gates-of-hell" exhaust leak will help you blend in with civics in both power and sound.

not to mention, there's a sort of placebo effect, if it sounds like sh**, it feels like sh**.
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remember there is a difference between free-flowing and leaking.

i remember when my passenger header broke off at the flange, it ran like a turd. your exhaust leak is likely very mild if it's not the very next thing on your to-do list. a full-on "gates-of-hell" exhaust leak will help you blend in with civics in both power and sound.

not to mention, there's a sort of placebo effect, if it sounds like sh**, it feels like sh**.
wow that would suck to have a header break off at the flange heh. Also I found out my leak was a bolt not tightened down all the way.
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Hey all! Well, decided to check out the leak myself first before paying a prof. I just unbolted the flanges and re bolted making sure that there is a good seal. Hope it works better. Don't know if it did the trick, I have yet to drive it. I also may use seafoam while I'm at it. I'll keep ya'll posted!!
BTW, is there a a such thing as a rubber washer that I can use to gap the two pipes together to prevent leaks? Just curiuos...
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Hey all! Well, decided to check out the leak myself first before paying a prof. I just unbolted the flanges and re bolted making sure that there is a good seal. Hope it works better. Don't know if it did the trick, I have yet to drive it. I also may use seafoam while I'm at it. I'll keep ya'll posted!!
BTW, is there a a such thing as a rubber washer that I can use to gap the two pipes together to prevent leaks? Just curiuos...
a rubber washer would likely melt.
and yes, seafoaming it will indicate if an exhaust leak is present.
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