I know, we have already talked about this (probably), but it just sticks in my craw.
While on another forum (non car related) one of the members posted he just got himself a Mustang. It was a nice car. It however was an automatic V8. Some members pointed this out and said “Well at least it is a V8, the way they are supposed to be.”
Oh my……
I had to inform them that more 6’s sell than 8’s and that 8’s were not the only intended engine for the Mustang.
Then someone who fancied themselves a Mustang expert posted that Mustangs first came out with 8’s and the other engine types were added to the line for reasons of gas efficiency, and other reasons.
Well…. This is simply not true. The 64 ½ year mustangs (first production runs) came with 6’s as standard and 8’s as options. And you could even choose between two different HP rated engines (by 65 when they started their first big Mustang push). But the 6’s were still the STANDARD base model.
Why on earth is there so much confusion on this matter?
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Good question! I can only think its because there are so many of us Mustang enthusiasts, with quite a few being new to the hobby and not yet up to speed with all of the facts.
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The 64 ½ year mustangs (first production runs) came with 6’s as standard and 8’s as options. And you could even choose between two different HP rated engines (by 65 when they started their first big Mustang push). But the 6’s were still the STANDARD base model.
You are absolutely correct. This has been Ford's marketing approach from the very beginning. Offering more affordable Mustangs with the V8 as an option is one of the many reasons why Ford Mustang sales has been so successful over the years. You can find out more about Ford's marketing approach in our feature article The Perfect Retro.
With regard to all of the misinformation out there on the net, all we can do is post replies containing what we know is correct and hope people can pick out the truth.
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no offence, but the first mustang had a v-8 and they only got bigger until, someone decited to market the mustang mistique on a car that would have a larger "apeal" to the "average" consumer. There's a reason for everything.
btw quiz: What size motor (in ci) did the FIRST line of mustangs have, I bet 99% of AO doesn't know the answer to this....
It was? I was under the impression that they upgraded to the V8 to compete with the other Muscle Cars of the time... which Mustangs were NOT (muscle cars), they were sports cars. And then when they decided to put an 8 in it, the standard model was still a 101 hp inline 6.
When they began their massive Mustang push in 65 they really pushed their made in 64 models and they came with the following:
Standard 6 with 170 ci and 101 hp.
V8 260 ci and 164 hp.
V8 289 ci and 210 hp. (ratings also increased to 225 with optional 4-barrel carb, and one that produced a reported 271 hp).
Still much underrated compared to today’s Mustangs of any engine size. Of course the cars were much lighter then as well if I remember correctly.
But I think I just showed that there are STILL misconceptions about Mustangs and what they had and didn’t have. And that is not even mentioning the 4s that came out.
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Originally Posted by bofh
The only reason to get a V6 mustang is money. Either you can't afford the intial cost, the fuel and maintinance cost, or the insurance costs.
If that's you're cup of tea, fine. But if you're going to buy a limited usefulness image vechicle like a Mustang, and then shy away from a few extra grand for the V8. What does that say about you?
What does that say about me (or anyone in general)? It says that they got what they wanted given a wide range of factors. It does not however say they don’t have “nuts”, or that they are somehow less “manly” or less of a man than anyone else on the road. It also does not say they “settle” for less because they are simply “that kind of person”.
What you are implying is ridiculous and actually quite sad. But it shows a simple mind set of some people that will not change via an internet forum. With that said, I will back out of this conversation since nothing I say will really matter in anyone’s lives, nor will any slapping aimed at V6 owners either.
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Originally Posted by bornl33t
ok this has been coming the whole thread and I'm finally in a mood to say it
Shartley, why don't you drive that dang bucket off a clift. Next time buy a real muscle car and stop trying to convince us to make you're self feel better.
"While the public first saw the car on April 17, the first production models rolled off the assembly line in early March since dealers needed to stock showrooms to capitalize on the upcoming national reveal. The vehicle identification number (VIN) for the first-ever Mustang was 5F08F100001, a Wimbledon White convertible with the 260 cubic-inch V-8. Shortly after it rolled off the assembly line, that car went on a Canadian publicity tour that took it to George Parson's Ford dealership in St. Johns, Newfoundland. "
260 ci v-8 in march of 1964 - off the ford website, but I've seen a 260 at a car show and asked the guy.
Next time you want to say what you found on Ford's website, do some reading....
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www.ford.com
Ford Motor Company 100 Years
Mustang / A Maverick Runs Wild
More than Just Horsepower.
From tough Lieutenant Bullitt so suave James Bond, Mustang’s captivating style was a perfect partner for those big-screen icons. The 1964 ½ Mustang arrived in two models: a four-passenger coupe and a convertible. With its long sweeping hood, chrome wraparound bumpers, and short rear-deck styling, the Mustang looked as phenomenal as it performed. The interior was sporty with “wall-to-wall” carpeting, front bucket seats, a stylish “sports car” steering wheel, and a dashboard with a horizontal speedometer. The Mustang stirred the imagination with its array of engine options ranging from a standard six-cylinder to a competition-level, high performance, 271-horsepower, 289-cubic-inch V8.
And try to keep your personal remarks about me and what you think I drive to yourself. If you want to win an argument use all the facts, not partial ones taken out of context or ignoring the whole picture and all other facts, and leave personal attacks at the door. I never said that one of the Mustang options offered on their first production run was NOT a V8, I stated that the STANDARD model was the Inline 6… and the two 8’s offered were options. Yes, Ford wanted to make sure that (V8) was offered, but knew that the 6’s would be the backbone of their sales. And they still know it today.
This of course is not putting down V8’s or saying anything other than Inline and V-6’s were not an afterthought, but part of the plan from the start. And that has nothing to do with what the first production car off the line had under its hood, but what was made available for public sale upon the “go” date for public sales.
And any true Mustang enthusiast knows the truth about ALL Mustangs and their place in both history and in Ford’s sales success. And any true Mustang enthusiast knows that any V6 crapping only shows ignorance and lack of personal confidence as well as total lack of self esteem on the part of the person doing the crapping. If you need your CAR to make you feel like a man, or need to try to put down another person because of the car THEY drive, than it only shows a real lack of maturity, low self esteem and possible self loathing.
This is why I said I was through with this issue…. and with this… I AM. Have a wonderful time driving whatever you drive, I know I will. And I am neither more, nor less, of a man depending on what vehicle sits in my driveway or gets me down the road. And hopefully someday you will grow up and realize that too.
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Oh my.
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actually the first mustang ever convieved was a 4cyl 2 seater conv
But then was asked for more power and room they made it a inline 6 2 seater and bench. then that model went into production then they made the 260 and 289 8s
Yes, quite an interesting read. It is so sad that there are so many “experts” out there that don’t know their rear from a hole in the ground…. Well, maybe that is because their heads spend so much time there?
Seriously though, the ignorance and misconceptions drive me crazy… with cars as well as other things. And the idea that what you own (house, car, toys, etc.) is what determines how much of a man you are or that someone who has “more” or “better” is somehow more or better of a man than you are infuriates me.
On another issue that is tied in with that thinking is the idea that your CAR is what gets you “chicks”. This is silly to me (yes, I am married with 4 kids, but that wasn’t always the case). I didn’t see any difference in “getting chicks” when I drove my Pickup, Cordova, TR7, Pinto (yup, had one of those for a bit too…. Great car because you didn’t care what you did to it… LOL The back bumper was actually tied on with strips of old sheet. HeeHee), or even a rented Ford Festiva. (Note: The order the vehicles are listed is NOT the order that they were owned. LOL)
The simple truth to the matter is that if you pick up your “chicks” by simply driving past them, you may want to raise your standards just a bit. And if you are going to a club, they will not even see your vehicle until you LEAVE the club… and most girls don’t really care as long as you HAVE wheels….. as well as OTHER things they like about you.
.............. sorry about the mini-Rant.
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The shackles of opression and dependence are most easily slipped on with a smile and kind words of hope.
I LOVE mustangs. i cant get enough. i wave to everyone i see on the road and i roll down my window to talk to mach 1's and cobras just to compliment them .Im a smart ass right back to v8 owners that think theyre somehow better than me. They rev their engine at a light and i do too. they peel out and i drive away like normal pace. its so funny to see them at the next light when im laughing my ass off. they dont even look at me. i love it
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Yes, quite an interesting read. It is so sad that there are so many “experts” out there that don’t know their rear from a hole in the ground…. Well, maybe that is because their heads spend so much time there?
Seriously though, the ignorance and misconceptions drive me crazy… with cars as well as other things. And the idea that what you own (house, car, toys, etc.) is what determines how much of a man you are or that someone who has “more” or “better” is somehow more or better of a man than you are infuriates me.
On another issue that is tied in with that thinking is the idea that your CAR is what gets you “chicks”. This is silly to me (yes, I am married with 4 kids, but that wasn’t always the case). I didn’t see any difference in “getting chicks” when I drove my Pickup, Cordova, TR7, Pinto (yup, had one of those for a bit too…. Great car because you didn’t care what you did to it… LOL The back bumper was actually tied on with strips of old sheet. HeeHee), or even a rented Ford Festiva. (Note: The order the vehicles are listed is NOT the order that they were owned. LOL)
The simple truth to the matter is that if you pick up your “chicks” by simply driving past them, you may want to raise your standards just a bit. And if you are going to a club, they will not even see your vehicle until you LEAVE the club… and most girls don’t really care as long as you HAVE wheels….. as well as OTHER things they like about you.
.............. sorry about the mini-Rant.
you're right people get that whole chick thing confused. You get the girl she steps in the stang and compliments it. That's usually hwo it works. I never got a girl because of the stang. well one girl was turned on by the car more than me... so i dropped her off on the street lol. Yes girls have said "that's my dream car" never got them. but girls you get on your own then see the stang and say hey now it's a lot better. you don't want a girl to like your car more than you haha
Mustangs and original engine size... 
