Ok, I love my 6er first of all and im not hating on the v8s cuz i love them just as much, but if i can take a 6, slap a 3300 dollar supercharger on it make better gas millage and pay less for insurance a month and still pay less in total for the car and the mods and make just as much if not more than a stock GT i would. Now on the other hand if i was looking to make 700 horse i would have bought a GT and blown the crap out of it. its all in how you look at it. what your personal preference is. I am also building my car up because i don't like the v6 bashers, especially the stock ones. no offence to anyone but if i can humiliate a basher on the road, infront of 100's of people with my v6 its sooooo much fun.
Ok, I love my 6er first of all and im not hating on the v8s cuz i love them just as much, but if i can take a 6, slap a 3300 dollar supercharger on it make better gas millage and pay less for insurance a month and still pay less in total for the car and the mods and make just as much if not more than a stock GT i would. Now on the other hand if i was looking to make 700 horse i would have bought a GT and blown the crap out of it. its all in how you look at it. what your personal preference is. I am also building my car up because i don't like the v6 bashers, especially the stock ones. no offence to anyone but if i can humiliate a basher on the road, infront of 100's of people with my v6 its sooooo much fun.
yep! I love beating GTs, Crossfires, and Hondas in my 6, almost as much as I loved beating Chevelles and Corvettes in my 68!
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yep! I love beating GTs, Crossfires, and Hondas in my 6, !
I would like to know your 1/4 times
I had a 02 V6 auto stang , and it was 16sec slow!
I have a friend with a procharger stage 2 on his 03 V6 5 speed ,
and his best et`s are 14.2-14.4 , he doesn`t beat that many 99-04 GT`s and thats with a blower!
I just can`t see you beating GT`s with the modifictions you have!
I had a 02 V6 auto stang , and it was 16sec slow!
I have a friend with a procharger stage 2 on his 03 V6 5 speed ,
and his best et`s are 14.2-14.4 , he doesn`t beat that many 99-04 GT`s and thats with a blower!
I just can`t see you beating GT`s with the modifictions you have!
the 3.8 get's better response from turboes than superchargers. Nitrous works pretty well on them too. The supercharged v6's just don't perform (from the ones that I have seen) like the nitrous and turbo guys.
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1998 V6- 12.9@106
1994 GT- N2O'd
V6 mods- Too many to list
GT mods- now running nitrous
Superchargers would work better on high rpms engines liek 4 cyls.
Turbos would be nice on a v6- perhaps your friend doesn't know how to drive or tuned it right
Or maybe KS runs into some bad GT drivers.
But I've seen v6s run 15's stock. and it's not what ya do, it's the compliments that you do with what you do, you follow stradegy where all mods benefit from each other, you'd be surpirsed where it gets ya
A tired 99 GT will prolly run a 14.5-14.9 1/4 mile under a good driver.
even 2004s only ran like 14.3 or more. - I mean with KS mods he could defeintly come near cutting a second off his time, running into a bad driver or grabbing a good launch can throw a v6 his edge
I had a 02 V6 auto stang , and it was 16sec slow!
I have a friend with a procharger stage 2 on his 03 V6 5 speed ,
and his best et`s are 14.2-14.4 , he doesn`t beat that many 99-04 GT`s and thats with a blower!
I just can`t see you beating GT`s with the modifictions you have!
depends on the GT.
Auto 4speed GTs pre 94 are ripe for picking, and the 94-98 GTs are also good picks to take.
the 94-98 GTs weigh between 3300-3400 lbs, and have 215-225 hp. I'm putting out the same hp, but my car weighs 3059 lbs.
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Woe to him who builds his palace by unrighteousness,his upper rooms by injustice,making his countrymen work for nothing...Does it make you a king to have more and more cedar?Did not your father have food and drink?He did what was right and just,so all went well with him. He defended the cause of the poor and needy,and so all went well...But your eyes and your heart are set only on dishonest gain,on shedding innocent blood and on oppression and extortion. Jer 22:13, 15-17
Superchargers would work better on high rpms engines liek 4 cyls.
Turbos would be nice on a v6- perhaps your friend doesn't know how to drive or tuned it right
Or maybe KS runs into some bad GT drivers.
But I've seen v6s run 15's stock. and it's not what ya do, it's the compliments that you do with what you do, you follow stradegy where all mods benefit from each other, you'd be surpirsed where it gets ya
A tired 99 GT will prolly run a 14.5-14.9 1/4 mile under a good driver.
even 2004s only ran like 14.3 or more. - I mean with KS mods he could defeintly come near cutting a second off his time, running into a bad driver or grabbing a good launch can throw a v6 his edge
I don't mess with 99+ GTs. I'd need around 50 more hp, and a revised top end to make it a drivers race.
just the pre-99s with chips on their shoulders.
Besides, most of 'em lift when they shift! kinda evens out the whole manual/auto thing.. . All the potential in the world deosn't matter if you don't take advantage of it!
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Woe to him who builds his palace by unrighteousness,his upper rooms by injustice,making his countrymen work for nothing...Does it make you a king to have more and more cedar?Did not your father have food and drink?He did what was right and just,so all went well with him. He defended the cause of the poor and needy,and so all went well...But your eyes and your heart are set only on dishonest gain,on shedding innocent blood and on oppression and extortion. Jer 22:13, 15-17
Perhaps, if you'd bought a 6, you'd have extra money in your pocket for aftermarket products.
Sorry, just got back from Mexico... anyways, this isn't the case for me. I understand what your saying though. In my case, my grandfather was buying the car for me (he's a car dealer so we get pretty good deals). He told me he was willing to spend 13,000 for a car the would get me to and from college without problems (meaning he wanted one with low miles). We found an 01 GT that's loaded for 14,000 so he jumped on it. It's not like I had the option of spending less on the car and more on the aftermarket.... But to respond to what you suggested. This is just my opinion... but why not wait a little while, maybe a year or two when the price of a v8 car is around the same as the v6 your thinking about buying now... then, you will have more power to work with when you get the car? Like I said, this is just my opinion. I'm fixing to buy an exaust system, 3.73 gears and maybe a few other things... with this, I'll have all the power I need.
A tired 99 GT will prolly run a 14.5-14.9 1/4 mile under a good driver.
even 2004s only ran like 14.3 or more. - I mean with KS mods he could defeintly come near cutting a second off his time, running into a bad driver or grabbing a good launch can throw a v6 his edge
I run a 13.8 with my '04 GT- just an exhaust, stock tires, stock exhaust manifolds, etc. A V6 won't do that without either a lot of money in parts, plenty of nitrous, or a super aggressive tune on race gas.
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2003 Mitsubishi Evo 8
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I run a 13.8 with my '04 GT- just an exhaust, stock tires, stock exhaust manifolds, etc. A V6 won't do that without either a lot of money in parts, plenty of nitrous, or a super aggressive tune on race gas.
13.1 on street tires, total of around $3000 in performance
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1998 V6- 12.9@106
1994 GT- N2O'd
V6 mods- Too many to list
GT mods- now running nitrous
I run a 13.8 with my '04 GT- just an exhaust, stock tires, stock exhaust manifolds, etc. A V6 won't do that without either a lot of money in parts, plenty of nitrous, or a super aggressive tune on race gas.
One most people can afford the GT- it's the insurance that gets ya
two. Yeah you can run 13.8 but not every average Joe can. Im saying 14.3 on an avergae. Meaning there are people out there running your 2004 GT you hold so proudly doing 15 second 1/4 miles lol. and 13.8 is good, you must be a good driver. But not everyone is, like the poeple you may find on the road.
One most people can afford the GT- it's the insurance that gets ya
two. Yeah you can run 13.8 but not every average Joe can. Im saying 14.3 on an avergae. Meaning there are people out there running your 2004 GT you hold so proudly doing 15 second 1/4 miles lol. and 13.8 is good, you must be a good driver. But not everyone is, like the poeple you may find on the road.
Btw, have you heard of octane boost? Teehee
Yup, seen SCC's tests, they actually got a full 2.5 points of octane with NOS racing formula or whatever. Cool stuff, but not going to allow major timing like C16.
Anyway, don't get me wrong, I don't hold my GT in high esteem... it's an ok car, did better than I expected on the track, but it is by no means a fast car, nor would I call it a "nice" car. Honestly, I bought it because it was stupidly cheap for an '04 with 4K miles on it. I routinely meet tools running 15s at the track with the same car. I'd like to think that they are the minority, launching like tards, shifting like dead cripples... Aren't there a fair number of people on this forum that have run times in the high 13s with stock cars?
And $3000 is a lot of money in parts in my book... and you're running a 100 shot - I stated without nitrous or lots of money in parts.
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2003 Mitsubishi Evo 8
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but don't they put out like 60-80 more lbs ft torque?
HP is more important than torque. especially if most of your torque goes to spinning the wheels. you can always re-gear with hp, gearing gets tough in low hp/high torque applications. Check out Hot Rod either this month or last month. It has a pretty detailed explanation.
The last guy (87-93 GT with a cam) spun for two secs, so I got the jump on him, lifted for a few tenths of a sec on every shift, and shifted too early for his cam. He was off power, and would start to catch up then shift, and went back, then caught up, then went back.
Caught him off the line, and he didn't know how to drive his car.
Another guy weighed like 250-300 lbs, so in addition to his already heavier car, he was down another 80-125 lbs, and had a couple of subwoofers in the back, tacking on another 100lbs. I from the sound of it, I think he was still running the 3.08s in the rear . . .
That guy I whooped by 2 car lengths.
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Woe to him who builds his palace by unrighteousness,his upper rooms by injustice,making his countrymen work for nothing...Does it make you a king to have more and more cedar?Did not your father have food and drink?He did what was right and just,so all went well with him. He defended the cause of the poor and needy,and so all went well...But your eyes and your heart are set only on dishonest gain,on shedding innocent blood and on oppression and extortion. Jer 22:13, 15-17
