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Old 06-05-2005   #1 (permalink)
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my friend has an acura rsx-s and he wants to race my 01 V6 Mustang Stick. I wana race him too but i wana kill his pride. you guys think i can beat him at this.
His rsx is at 210 HP but it has around the same Tourque so im thinking if i beat him of the line. I should be able to keep my lead down the track.
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my friend has an acura rsx-s and he wants to race my 01 V6 Mustang Stick. I wana race him too but i wana kill his pride. you guys think i can beat him at this.
His rsx is at 210 HP but it has around the same Tourque so im thinking if i beat him of the line. I should be able to keep my lead down the track.
He can run a low 15 bone stock, with small mods, he'll run in 14s. With a turbo, supercharger or nitrous, 12s are easy. The K20 engines in those cars are impressive - strong, easy to make power and light. I don't think an '01 v6 will fare too well, unless he is a really poor driver and you do absolutely stellar.
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I have a v6 mustang also. i have raced in rsx-s before. i was able to jump off the line before he did. but he was able to catch up me. we stayed about even! my mustang is only stock though!

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ummm i think we are both equally skilled on driving. i have more street experience as in turns and curves. hes has more experiences on straight ways
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my friend has the 200 hp RSX type S. He moves, no v6 I know stock can beat it.

However I think he claims he faster than he is. the stock 0-60 is like 6.7 on his at least.

But he claims since he has race headers, timing belt, short throw, and a magnaflow fart muffler, and CAI he runs a 5 flat 0-60 or less. and says he keeps up with evos (Running 12s?!?!) So he can be filled with a load of **** sometimes. but they can defiently run 15s -14s so watch out - he'll eat ya. not to mention the car is like 1000 lbs lighter than your v6 with the same or more power, not as much torque but the lesser weight makes up for it.

I plan on getting a New GT and tooling his ass and showing him he couldnt possibly take over 1.5 seconds off his 0-60 and 2-3 seconds off his 1/4 with those mods.

I'd say his 0-60 is like 5.8or 5.5 and 1/4 low 14s. possibly possibly high 13s

But a quick question to GTers 99+ prefibly - do you guys ever beat these RSX type Ss?
I figure a GT has like a 5.5 0-60 and low 14 1/4 mile and high 13. Just wondering if any GT has raced them.
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so you guys are saying imma get whopped.
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yeah pretty much, sorry.
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But he claims since he has race headers, timing belt, short throw, and a magnaflow fart muffler, and CAI he runs a 5 flat 0-60 or less. and says he keeps up with evos (Running 12s?!?!) So he can be filled with a load of **** sometimes. but they can defiently run 15s -14s so watch out - he'll eat ya. not to mention the car is like 1000 lbs lighter than your v6 with the same or more power, not as much torque but the lesser weight makes up for it.

I plan on getting a New GT and tooling his ass and showing him he couldnt possibly take over 1.5 seconds off his 0-60 and 2-3 seconds off his 1/4 with those mods.

I'd say his 0-60 is like 5.8or 5.5 and 1/4 low 14s. possibly possibly high 13s

But a quick question to GTers 99+ prefibly - do you guys ever beat these RSX type Ss?
I figure a GT has like a 5.5 0-60 and low 14 1/4 mile and high 13. Just wondering if any GT has raced them.
RSX is around 2600 lbs or so, so it's closer to a 4-500 lbs difference, unless your V6 has a lot of options, I thought V6 stangs were 3000-3100 on average... RSX with bolt ons will do 14s, not 13s, I would honestly be surprised to see even low 14s with that little in the way of added power. If he can run a 6.0 second 0-60 with that, he is doing great.

Most bone stock 99+ GT stangs run around low 14s or high 13s with a good driver, launch, tire pressure, etc. I've seen 99+ GTs running 15 flats if the driver is not willing to launch and shift properly, or just plain sucks. There is also a good chance that the RSX will get good traction on the street, personally, I don't, especially with 32 psi in the rear tires, so the gap can be closed slightly.

Evos are another story, and your buddy's RSX won't keep up with one. "Race headers" or not, the Evo is faster until you're juicing or boosting the RSX, period. Next time he says that, tell him that he is flat out lying and DSM guys around the country will laugh in his face and/or beat him for being such a retard.
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my friend has the 200 hp RSX type S. He moves, no v6 I know stock can beat it.

However I think he claims he faster than he is. the stock 0-60 is like 6.7 on his at least.

But he claims since he has race headers, timing belt, short throw, and a magnaflow fart muffler, and CAI he runs a 5 flat 0-60 or less. and says he keeps up with evos (Running 12s?!?!) So he can be filled with a load of **** sometimes. but they can defiently run 15s -14s so watch out - he'll eat ya. not to mention the car is like 1000 lbs lighter than your v6 with the same or more power, not as much torque but the lesser weight makes up for it.

I plan on getting a New GT and tooling his ass and showing him he couldnt possibly take over 1.5 seconds off his 0-60 and 2-3 seconds off his 1/4 with those mods.

I'd say his 0-60 is like 5.8or 5.5 and 1/4 low 14s. possibly possibly high 13s

But a quick question to GTers 99+ prefibly - do you guys ever beat these RSX type Ss?
I figure a GT has like a 5.5 0-60 and low 14 1/4 mile and high 13. Just wondering if any GT has raced them.
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he'll kill the 2001 v6 to 60, but you might be able to edge him out in the quarter mile, since it's harder to keep the engine in v-tec mode. He'll also have to do a pretty substantial clutch drop. It'll come down to his willingness to abuse his car.

If you throw on underdrivers, you'll definitely have an edge in the 1/4. You still might not be able to get him to 60.
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how would i fare against the normal RSX.
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how would i fare against the normal RSX.
I don't know that much about them. I drove one when they 1st came out. they're a little car for relatively big money.

I wouldn't particularly fear one . .. the regular ones have, what? 170 HP?
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It's so light, it'd be a drivers race. I'd guess all things being equal, you'd kill a regular RSX.
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i would put my bet on the stang. a regular rsx wont probably do that good against you
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RSX is around 2600 lbs or so, so it's closer to a 4-500 lbs difference, unless your V6 has a lot of options, I thought V6 stangs were 3000-3100 on average... RSX with bolt ons will do 14s, not 13s, I would honestly be surprised to see even low 14s with that little in the way of added power. If he can run a 6.0 second 0-60 with that, he is doing great.

Most bone stock 99+ GT stangs run around low 14s or high 13s with a good driver, launch, tire pressure, etc. I've seen 99+ GTs running 15 flats if the driver is not willing to launch and shift properly, or just plain sucks. There is also a good chance that the RSX will get good traction on the street, personally, I don't, especially with 32 psi in the rear tires, so the gap can be closed slightly.

Evos are another story, and your buddy's RSX won't keep up with one. "Race headers" or not, the Evo is faster until you're juicing or boosting the RSX, period. Next time he says that, tell him that he is flat out lying and DSM guys around the country will laugh in his face and/or beat him for being such a retard.
Thank you for confirming that glowmunkey - Try to tell him there is no way but it seems everything that comes out of my mouth to him he suggests he knows better and his brother is such a good driver he can race anything and keep up with it - I don't know - he's such a virgin with cars but since he goes to school for mechanical engineering he feels he simply knows more. I still say he's full of **** and should stop having his older brother (Who can over work a 5.0 Gt to the max N\A- his first car was a 92) and his brother basically fabricated and put on all his mods. - I think he did my freinds exhaust on his civic- (what? slap on a bolt on exhaust? yeah hard) - I don't know he's always talking smart **** and how he is always going turbo and I said try a supercharger and he tries to bring up a lot of **** - I don't know he's all over the place. now he's looking to get a Saleen S281 E (2205 edition) and I was like HOW DO YOU PAY FOR THAT!??!?! - You just can't convince him. eh. Whatever I vented. thanks though. Hopefully I can get a GT soon a just shut him up.

But as for an RSX Normal - you'll do good against it it still has some good power for weight - they are very light - but it's not liek it's an acura integra type r with 180 hp or the GSR that have more work than an 180 hp producing engine. You can prolyl sneak in a win there.
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Thank you for confirming that glowmunkey - Try to tell him there is no way but it seems everything that comes out of my mouth to him he suggests he knows better and his brother is such a good driver he can race anything and keep up with it - I don't know - he's such a virgin with cars but since he goes to school for mechanical engineering he feels he simply knows more. I still say he's full of **** and should stop having his older brother (Who can over work a 5.0 Gt to the max N\A- his first car was a 92) and his brother basically fabricated and put on all his mods. - I think he did my freinds exhaust on his civic- (what? slap on a bolt on exhaust? yeah hard) - I don't know he's always talking smart **** and how he is always going turbo and I said try a supercharger and he tries to bring up a lot of **** - I don't know he's all over the place.
I meet engineers at the track all the time, they are great at verbal/keyboard races, but somehow they can never manage to make a faster car than us "dumb" guys. I'm sure he's got great theories to back up why his ideas are better, but I tend to go with the tried and true. Simplicity seems to work better than trying to reinvent the wheel.

But yeah, after messing with a supercharged honda for the past few years, I'd pick a turbo nine times out of ten too.
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