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Old 06-25-2005   #1 (permalink)
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Ive heard all of the talk about 05gt vs 05 v6 and it makes me thinkbecause I wanted a car with some power.
I own a 05' v6 so far with only one mod and thats the jba dual exhaust, and I like it I dont regret owning it, but with all of the stuff going aroung and all of the negative talk about the v6 it makes me wonder if the v6 has enough potential to be better than the 05 gt or will the gt always be better no matter what? and if there was a way for the v6 to to top off alot of the other cars? such as upgraded gt's compared to upgraded v6.
thanks in advance:o

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The new '05 GT's are pretty dang fast. I've seen one stock run 13.6 on a nice cold unhimid day (dont know if there's any faster one's stock). You'll have to do some serious motor work if your going to try to beat one N/A plus you'll have to get gears, and all of the bolt on's. Yes it is possible to beat a GT, but it requires money. The 8k-12k you saved on that v6 over the GT you can just slap a supercharger on there for about 4k and a few other mods and you'll be right along with the '05 gt. Oh, and did I mention the new GT's are fast as hell??
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The 05's times are pretty impressive.:thumbsup
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Ive heard all of the talk about 05gt vs 05 v6 and it makes me thinkbecause I wanted a car with some power.
I own a 05' v6 so far with only one mod and thats the jba dual exhaust, and I like it I dont regret owning it, but with all of the stuff going aroung and all of the negative talk about the v6 it makes me wonder if the v6 has enough potential to be better than the 05 gt or will the gt always be better no matter what? and if there was a way for the v6 to to top off alot of the other cars? such as upgraded gt's compared to upgraded v6.
thanks in advance:o
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You guys really think itll cost THAT much to run with an unmodded GT? 4K in total doesnt seem all that bad though, all things considered. I just want to be able to beat an accord and I think I'll be happy . . .
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You guys really think itll cost THAT much to run with an unmodded GT? 4K in total doesnt seem all that bad though, all things considered. I just want to be able to beat an accord and I think I'll be happy . . .
90 hp is a pretty substantial margin!

you could probably pick up 20-30 pretty easily, 40-50 with some work, naturally aspirated. but 90 requires a total reworking.

Cheapest and most reliable way is supercharging, and that'll cost you around 3,000 dollars.
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mod for mod the gt will always kill the v6......now a modded v6 against a stock gt ..well who knows..but sooner or later most 05 gts will be modded too
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Ive heard all of the talk about 05gt vs 05 v6 and it makes me thinkbecause I wanted a car with some power.
I own a 05' v6 so far with only one mod and thats the jba dual exhaust, and I like it I dont regret owning it, but with all of the stuff going aroung and all of the negative talk about the v6 it makes me wonder if the v6 has enough potential to be better than the 05 gt or will the gt always be better no matter what? and if there was a way for the v6 to to top off alot of the other cars? such as upgraded gt's compared to upgraded v6.
thanks in advance:o
A well upgraded v6 can beat most of the ricers out there... but to compare a upgraded v6 to a upgraded gt... well if you want to run with the big dawgs you'll need to get off the porch
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Costs over 5 years add up to a 10,000 dollar difference in insurance, gas, and repairs. I'm planning on putting on 50% in my pocket, and 50% in the car. I'll be $5000 ahead, and still have the performance of a 2003 GT.

Any upgrades to the GT widen the gap.
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i didnt buy my stang to be an econo car..so the gas thing dont mean anything..and i pay $350 a year on insurance.....so i dont get that at all..and repairs???? what are they? never had a problem
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Costs over 5 years add up to a 10,000 dollar difference in insurance, gas, and repairs. I'm planning on putting on 50% in my pocket, and 50% in the car. I'll be $5000 ahead, and still have the performance of a 2003 GT.

Any upgrades to the GT widen the gap.
dont know who your getting your figures from...
Im assuming you dont do any of your own work so your paying 50 dollars an hour (or more) for a mechanic to change your oil.
you must have a few speeding tickets (insurance rate being so high) (mines 1500 a year for 2 cars with full collision/theft/glass)
and well gas ... well I read another post where you use the cheap gas..well i guess that goes back to the mechanic to fix the injectors and such (50 dollars an hour)

so I guess yeah that would cost you 10,000 more in 5 years
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dont know who your getting your figures from...
Im assuming you dont do any of your own work so your paying 50 dollars an hour (or more) for a mechanic to change your oil.
you must have a few speeding tickets (insurance rate being so high) (mines 1500 a year for 2 cars with full collision/theft/glass)
and well gas ... well I read another post where you use the cheap gas..well i guess that goes back to the mechanic to fix the injectors and such (50 dollars an hour)

so I guess yeah that would cost you 10,000 more in 5 years
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Now, I drive 40,000 miles a year, so I'm actually saving much more than 10,000 over 5 years.

Costs include purchase price (I bought mine NEW for 13,000, v.s. 28,000 for a similarly equipped GT, all the interest for the v6 is based on a $5,000 spread in initial cost, which was a $15,000 spread in my case). I could go through all the mathematics, but the v6 has really saved me much more than $10,000. It's actually closer to 20,000.
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http://www.edmunds.com/apps/cto/CTOi...mundsonly..3.*
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Now, I drive 40,000 miles a year, so I'm actually saving much more than 10,000 over 5 years.

Costs include purchase price (I bought mine NEW for 13,000, v.s. 28,000 for a similarly equipped GT, all the interest for the v6 is based on a $5,000 spread in initial cost, which was a $15,000 spread in my case). I could go through all the mathematics, but the v6 has really saved me much more than $10,000. It's actually closer to 20,000.
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http://www.edmunds.com/apps/cto/CTOi...mundsonly..3.*
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Now, I drive 40,000 miles a year, so I'm actually saving much more than 10,000 over 5 years.

Costs include purchase price (I bought mine NEW for 13,000, v.s. 28,000 for a similarly equipped GT, all the interest for the v6 is based on a $5,000 spread in initial cost, which was a $15,000 spread in my case). I could go through all the mathematics, but the v6 has really saved me much more than $10,000. It's actually closer to 20,000.

OK i went to your website looks like i came out 300 LESS than you....hmm that cant be right can it?


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Depreciation $2,162 $1,897 $1,668 $1,479 $1,328 $8,534
Financing $1,053 $847 $628 $393 $142 $3,063
Insurance $1,243 $1,287 $1,332 $1,379 $1,427 $6,668
Taxes & Fees $1,501 $21 $64 $21 $64 $1,671
Fuel $1,532 $1,578 $1,625 $1,674 $1,724 $8,133
Maintenance $786 $1,300 $1,776 $803 $1,350 $6,015
Repairs $0 $112 $266 $387 $450 $1,215

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OK i went to your website looks like i came out 300 LESS than you....hmm that cant be right can it?


Year 1 Year 2 Year 3 Year 4 Year 5 5-yr TCO
Depreciation $2,162 $1,897 $1,668 $1,479 $1,328 $8,534
Financing $1,053 $847 $628 $393 $142 $3,063
Insurance $1,243 $1,287 $1,332 $1,379 $1,427 $6,668
Taxes & Fees $1,501 $21 $64 $21 $64 $1,671
Fuel $1,532 $1,578 $1,625 $1,674 $1,724 $8,133
Maintenance $786 $1,300 $1,776 $803 $1,350 $6,015
Repairs $0 $112 $266 $387 $450 $1,215

Yearly Totals $8,277 $7,042 $7,359 $6,136 $6,485 $35,299
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