Whazup fellas (and ladies if any out there in Stangland) my name is Ant and I am new 2 the forum but not to stangz. I am now on my 4th stang. I have owned 2-4 bangers and the last one I sold
1 1/2 yrs ago, 90 25th anniv Black/black w/whiteout lights, 5.0 300+hp upper/lower Edelbrock performer 5.0 intakes, 30 lb inj., 100 amp alt, underdrive pullies, bumped cam, bumped timing, msd box, k&n 11" cone filter, flexi lite fan, stock 3.08 rear but fast. I have had a few kills myself: 90ish Jag, 2001 ram air at 140 in 4th I shifted to 5th then he left me after a mile down I-20 in Columbia,SC, and a mid 90s mustang gt w/3.90 rear he said, then he wanted to call my gt a piece of junk after I beat him.
Never-the-less, I don't have that car any more ...sold it for 2 jeep cherokees(HUGE MISTAKE)* 2...
I have always poked fun at the 94-98 models for I thought they were kind of strange looking,...NO offense to any of you guys/girls, for not too long ago my friend/boss's dad owns a wrecker co. and I was looking for some bucket seats for my work truck when I spotted this black shadow in front of me and it was a 97 mustang all black, tinted windows, black rims and a couple of flats. The rear bumper said gt, but the intake says 3.8..go figure. But he was getting rid of it for $200. WOW my stuff hit the floor. It didn't have a title..well if you wanna put somthin on the track...who needs a title..right? Anyhow I have had a "Judgement Day" project in mind for some time and I could not pass this opp. up. So i made the deal, and had one of his guys deliver it to my house while my wife was their and she didn't have a clue what was going on. You guessed it..my cell was blowin up when he got there to deliver. I knew she would say NO if I asked ahead of time and figured she would cool down eventually..It took 1 week of HELL, but its all good now. Not talking about it in details but she has accepted the mess anyway. Whats a "Car Crazy" kinda guy supposed to do ?? right ?? saveup......
Enough with the drama...question time..I have been trying to start this car without a key and purposefully broke the ignition enough for me to turn over and fire but won't stay crunk do to the theft light keeps coming on. and it won't let me full y start it.. any suggestions?? I have seen a "Start" button system for $99 which is in the plan anyhow, how can I bypass the theft sensor?
thanks for your time in reading bout my drama. But if you are here, its all about our car drama anyway, right?? keep them rollin'...safe that is....
Peace
ant
It's called PATS(passive anti-theft system) I think the only way it can be bypassed is by the dealer. It uses a "chip" inside the key. That's why you can start it, but it won't stay running unless the key is there.
It's called PATS(passive anti-theft system) I think the only way it can be bypassed is by the dealer. It uses a "chip" inside the key. That's why you can start it, but it won't stay running unless the key is there.
yeah, there's no way around the PATS. You'd have to switch to a carbeurator.
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Tons of work Ant...... Why not just rebuild the 3.8 from the ground up? Plenty of potential horses in there with the right internals. Just ask GT-Eater. People will be more impressed with the built 6.
I have thought about that and have talked it over w/ a friend bout building the 6, thro'n a turbo, he was worried about long term wear. I want to street,strip,drift and he didn't think it would hold up for long. I know it would way less then a v8. I went to the dealer today and I would have to bring the car their and they would reprogram a key. and if I didn't damage it to bad to just replace the key.
ign---$65
new key $20
?? labor to reprogram
and I have to tow my car their--less then 2 miles--then towed back-no insurance or is not legal yet
I have thought about that and have talked it over w/ a friend bout building the 6, thro'n a turbo, he was worried about long term wear. I want to street,strip,drift and he didn't think it would hold up for long. I know it would way less then a v8. I went to the dealer today and I would have to bring the car their and they would reprogram a key. and if I didn't damage it to bad to just replace the key.
ign---$65
new key $20
?? labor to reprogram
and I have to tow my car their--less then 2 miles--then towed back-no insurance or is not legal yet
+ $$ = 10.5 et ant
the 01+ v6s are more reliable and more durable than the 8s.
they come with stud girdles, a windage tray, and a lot of webbing. They already have a 200,000 mile duty rating.
The engine will hold up.
But a 94-98 engine would need a lot of prep to hold up, including a girdle, etc.,
If you do a rebuild, use a 01+ block, an dyou won't have any problems with wear -so long as it's assembled correctly.
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Woe to him who builds his palace by unrighteousness,his upper rooms by injustice,making his countrymen work for nothing...Does it make you a king to have more and more cedar?Did not your father have food and drink?He did what was right and just,so all went well with him. He defended the cause of the poor and needy,and so all went well...But your eyes and your heart are set only on dishonest gain,on shedding innocent blood and on oppression and extortion. Jer 22:13, 15-17
I was talking w/ a friend of mine today about procharging the 6 and he was wondering of reliability as well. So you say the 01 is better then the 97 ??I am sure that if I keep the 6 w/ F.I. would be better then carb too for consistency, right ??
Ant
thanks, I figured so. I plan on replacing the 3.8 & T5 anyway with the new boss 302 block, maybe with powerglide...
It'll cost me $100 or more for ign. from dealer...
I wanted to put in push button start anyway...$99......
anybody need a motor/trans???
ant
Oh, it's a new Boss 302? Sorry, the last post I didn't scroll up to see what was going on . . .
What year car is it again?
you got it for $200?
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Woe to him who builds his palace by unrighteousness,his upper rooms by injustice,making his countrymen work for nothing...Does it make you a king to have more and more cedar?Did not your father have food and drink?He did what was right and just,so all went well with him. He defended the cause of the poor and needy,and so all went well...But your eyes and your heart are set only on dishonest gain,on shedding innocent blood and on oppression and extortion. Jer 22:13, 15-17
its a 97 coupe, v6, duals w/ no mufflers, k&n filter to intake, has gt body kit, 5 spd, all black.....
the Boss 302 has just been revamped a couple of times. Check out NEW 5.0 mag page 104. The old 5.0 doesn't even come close, this motor is bad. They have 2 versions M-6010-B50 Sportsman $1050 and M-6010-R302 $1995 were built by an outside contractor and they aren't going to anymore, so they say. After they dwindle out will come the bad to the bone BOSS 302 $1795 for the block. Che ck out the article.
I would like to shave weight where I can, I saw a 3 link set up w/panhard bar and bags go on an '05 v6 w/ pipes coming out the side w/ cervini dbl tips, header & turbo,rear window scoop to let air in while on road course or strip racing.....Looked and sounded nice....(Show Street Tuner Challenge on speed) I want to put sides on mine. The windshield seal is messed up and the carpey has been soaked for some time, so I will cut it out after I take some pics, then setup for dynamat & new carpet on and on.........
ant
its a 97 coupe, v6, duals w/ no mufflers, k&n filter to intake, has gt body kit, 5 spd, all black.....
the Boss 302 has just been revamped a couple of times. Check out NEW 5.0 mag page 104. The old 5.0 doesn't even come close, this motor is bad. They have 2 versions M-6010-B50 Sportsman $1050 and M-6010-R302 $1995 were built by an outside contractor and they aren't going to anymore, so they say. After they dwindle out will come the bad to the bone BOSS 302 $1795 for the block. Che ck out the article.
I would like to shave weight where I can, I saw a 3 link set up w/panhard bar and bags go on an '05 v6 w/ pipes coming out the side w/ cervini dbl tips, header & turbo,rear window scoop to let air in while on road course or strip racing.....Looked and sounded nice....(Show Street Tuner Challenge on speed) I want to put sides on mine. The windshield seal is messed up and the carpey has been soaked for some time, so I will cut it out after I take some pics, then setup for dynamat & new carpet on and on.........
ant
those are more reliable.
It will cost a bunch of money, but If you're going whole hog, go for it!
None of the 05+ stuff will work on your car.
But you will have to swap out the rear end.
You can find panhard setups or 5-links from all the major aftermarket suppliers.
You're also going to have to find a computer and all the harnesses from a 94-95 car with a 302/5.0L AND a K-member for the 94-95 cars. You'd be better off going with an aftermarket K-member.
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Woe to him who builds his palace by unrighteousness,his upper rooms by injustice,making his countrymen work for nothing...Does it make you a king to have more and more cedar?Did not your father have food and drink?He did what was right and just,so all went well with him. He defended the cause of the poor and needy,and so all went well...But your eyes and your heart are set only on dishonest gain,on shedding innocent blood and on oppression and extortion. Jer 22:13, 15-17
so it will be more cost efective to stay w/ the 6 ???
That depends on what you want out of the car.
If you're going all out custom -then go with the Boss. It would be more cost effective to drop it in an unstressed chassis, that hasn't been abused and be able to start from scratch. On a 10 year old car, if it were a GT, you'd likely end up replacing the engine/tranny, and with 425 hp, you'd likley have to beef up the rear gearset and control arms anyway.
the battle/boxes in the six would be in good shape, and you wouldn't have to worry about stress cracks in the chassis.
If you're not going all out, then it would be a lot cheaper to get 425 hp out of the six.
You could buy/build 2-3 engines for the cost of the one 302.
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Woe to him who builds his palace by unrighteousness,his upper rooms by injustice,making his countrymen work for nothing...Does it make you a king to have more and more cedar?Did not your father have food and drink?He did what was right and just,so all went well with him. He defended the cause of the poor and needy,and so all went well...But your eyes and your heart are set only on dishonest gain,on shedding innocent blood and on oppression and extortion. Jer 22:13, 15-17
thanks KS. I have realized that and have been pricing for some time, many things/options. Its a funny biz anyway. If u want hp.......
it'll cost u in many forms and fashons. ...
quick question: I haven't ran the vin #s yet but figured u'd know the answer, do I have a 7.5 rearend in the 97 ??? I know it has the weaker T5 then the beefed up GT T5. For I plan on a 373 in it anyhow. I belive I was told that the stock trans won't hold up past 300hp.. true/false ?? and that trans (v6) is the lightest in the stangs as I was told, correct ??
I have read alot of the past forums and had to laugh at some, but I won't go into that.... I will r&r the susp to coilovers/ tubular control arms frt/bck, w/K-bar, and will follow ur direction on the GT rear sway bar, (if I can find one in the junk yards).....93-98 will work ??
I do have some questions for those who might know if air bags or coilovers would be better then one another ??? it'll cost $$ either way...I have seen the application done on other stangs on tv with good results w. bags.
Oh yeah, anutter quest. I was surfing on "Chips V6 Specialties" to see a Trac-Loc L-slip diff, 28 spline for 7.5----$165. good/bad ??
and if I go above 300hp should I go w/stronger shafts ?? 30 spline?
Hey Ant, You have a 7.5" rear in your car with 2.73's. If you look under the car at the rear end, it will have a small metal tag on it. It will say 2_73. If there's a "L" between them, then it's a limited slip. Also, check on your door for the tag for the axle code. I believe the code would be "5" but I don't remember because my Son has the '97.
You should be fine for the rear end and tranny if you're going close to 400 providing you have done the girdling/LSD/gears. You'll need a new clutch for the added power.
Chips V6 specialties are fine for the LSD. That must be the Ford one. Auburn and Detroit are better, but alot more $$$$. GEFRacing.com also has LSD's for a couple bucks less. I'm ordering 2 today. One for me, and one for my Son. Tell your wife they make great Christmas presents!!!! KS, know of anywhere cheaper? Maybe a pop-top discount?
The GT sway bars are on Ebay, make sure you get the hardware for them.
ignition question on 97 
...sold it for 2 
+ $$ = 10.5 et 
