I have an ongoing thread about about the v6 and was wondering who out there has either intake w/ an estimate of build costs, likes and dislikes, and if you would do anything different...?? If I can build 3 - 6's for the price of one v8 build,, I'm liking them odds. I am making a list and checking it twice, thrice and so on.. before some major purchases. I will go w/ an 01 block. I am curious about crank selection. Someone told me togo w/ a Cobra crank ???? Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't all Cobras v8s ??? I know if you use forced induction the bottom end has to be pretty stout. Any recommendations ?? I am checkin the net for aluminum heads as well. I don't know if I will be able to get the title anytime soon, so I have also opted to take out the ac at the moment.
I jave read alot of threads in here and it sounds like you all have some SWEET ridez...... I wish there were pics on some...
Anyhow, thankz for the quick replies, keep dem tirez burnin..
later
Ant
GT-Eater is da' man for that stuff. He can give you all the specs/combos that he, or one of his buddies have tried. I'm not sure if there are others here that puts down the rubber in a 6 like he does.
Yes, Ant, you can really build at least 2 bulletproof motors for the price of the Boss block. All of the parts are interchangeable, so you don't need to buy 2 SC's, etc. Hey, blown a motor? Got another one is stock. No better feeling than that.....
I have an ongoing thread about about the v6 and was wondering who out there has either intake w/ an estimate of build costs, likes and dislikes, and if you would do anything different...?? If I can build 3 - 6's for the price of one v8 build,, I'm liking them odds. I am making a list and checking it twice, thrice and so on.. before some major purchases. I will go w/ an 01 block. I am curious about crank selection. Someone told me togo w/ a Cobra crank ???? Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't all Cobras v8s ??? I know if you use forced induction the bottom end has to be pretty stout. Any recommendations ?? I am checkin the net for aluminum heads as well. I don't know if I will be able to get the title anytime soon, so I have also opted to take out the ac at the moment.
I jave read alot of threads in here and it sounds like you all have some SWEET ridez...... I wish there were pics on some...
Anyhow, thankz for the quick replies, keep dem tirez burnin..
later
Ant
You can use a Forged Crank from a Thunderbird/Cougar Supercharged -otherwise known as the T-Bird/Cougar SC, or have a custom crank made.
A Cobra crank will not work
Pick up this months Modified Mustangs to see one insane 3.8L using T-bird Components, instead of the Split Port Heads.
There's more than one way to skin a cat.
You just have to know what you want to do before doing it. Know your budget, the characteristics you're after, etc.
I finally got a chance to go through my "library" of mags going back to 1987. I picked out all the 1994/04 3.8L stuff and have them in a differnt stack. (I moved last year, and I used to have all the tech I needed in one stack, and the rest all in order on a shelf. Now it's a mess.
(One interesting I re-learned -the IMRC added 20 ft/lbs of torque in 2001! the Torque ratings of the 01+ cars is 245! I'd forgotten about that!)
Anyway, If I ever get a chance, I'll post volume and issue numbers for anyone who wants to pick up back issues.
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Woe to him who builds his palace by unrighteousness,his upper rooms by injustice,making his countrymen work for nothing...Does it make you a king to have more and more cedar?Did not your father have food and drink?He did what was right and just,so all went well with him. He defended the cause of the poor and needy,and so all went well...But your eyes and your heart are set only on dishonest gain,on shedding innocent blood and on oppression and extortion. Jer 22:13, 15-17
We already know that you have the knowledge KS. I still agree with GT that you should be a moderator. You're on here helping more than anyone. Isn't Lee our mod? If so, why doesn't he reply to threads as often/at all like we do? Maybe I'm confused what a mod is supposed to be. I'm not bashing him whatsoever, just curious.
We already know that you have the knowledge KS. I still agree with GT that you should be a moderator. You're on here helping more than anyone. Isn't Lee our mod? If so, why doesn't he reply to threads as often/at all like we do? Maybe I'm confused what a mod is supposed to be. I'm not bashing him whatsoever, just curious.
But why does all the tq. specs all say 225?
They never updated them. MMFF & 5.0 did updated tests on them over the years, and posted new stats that Ford never did. According to Ford literature, the addition of the windage tray and all the updates they did in 2001 didn't do anything -but it was mostly because they didn't want to go through the expense of updating all the literature which would cost them a ton of money.
There's nothing in the brochures that mention the IMRC, mechanics found it when rebuilding them. The Ford Techs got the updates, no one else did.
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Woe to him who builds his palace by unrighteousness,his upper rooms by injustice,making his countrymen work for nothing...Does it make you a king to have more and more cedar?Did not your father have food and drink?He did what was right and just,so all went well with him. He defended the cause of the poor and needy,and so all went well...But your eyes and your heart are set only on dishonest gain,on shedding innocent blood and on oppression and extortion. Jer 22:13, 15-17
Lee generally responds is no one else does. He tends to add stuff when needed, and we all generally beat him to the punch .. .
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Woe to him who builds his palace by unrighteousness,his upper rooms by injustice,making his countrymen work for nothing...Does it make you a king to have more and more cedar?Did not your father have food and drink?He did what was right and just,so all went well with him. He defended the cause of the poor and needy,and so all went well...But your eyes and your heart are set only on dishonest gain,on shedding innocent blood and on oppression and extortion. Jer 22:13, 15-17
Hey, I thank you fellas for all the info that you give. I know we all have families and it takes time to sit here, but I enjoy the stories and we all learn from each others mistakes anyway, shouldn't we?? .....I have been car crazy half my life, and we all know a little bit about alot of things. Some of us are blessed with more, but those who don't seek knowledge know little to nothing..
I don't really think that I will set a budget for this build . If my WIFE had any knowledge of this...she'd count $for$......anyway,..lol..
there are specific things that I want to see and feel and have happen. I will have to earn extra $$ online biz, hopefully it will payoff, then if that brings in what it should........sky is the limit.... I have a mural that I am going to paint on it that will glo-in-the-dark (lightning bolts) 4 hrs after the lights go out...anyone want info on that paint..I know a place:white, blue, green, yellow and red........the lighter the color the longer it'll last. All will burn atleast 1-2 hrs. White on white = 4hrs.....
I found pics of my 90 GT I will post...
I know I gotta get over it, but thats why I bought this car, plus it was a deal of a lifetime..Its never yours unless you build it right ??
The IMRC's are a restriction in cars with force induction , they should ALWAYS be removed .They are a benefit in the stock engines , but once you get up around 400 hp or so they are not needed , the tuner can compensate for low end TQ with timing. Also the cam comes into play, the cam controls the power band and how high the engine will rev before it falls off and how much will flow through the heads ,thats where lift comes into play.
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660.0 RWHP 583.0 Ft. lb's trq. @17.4 PSI
11.584@124.58mph( Old set up)
2002 V6 3.8 liter.
T-5 G-Force Dog Ring
Custom T-80 Turbo built by Delk Performance
I called Moldex about a 3.8 /4.2 billet crank , they will make either one for $1800.00 . Matt at Delk is about to come out with an aftermarket girdle with ARP studs . I don't yet know how much he will be asking for it . To add this piece adds a tremendous amount of support to the bottom end . This piece will pretty much be a direct bolt on while building up a new engine and on the 01+ blocks it will make them able to take 900 crank HP or higher . Matt is already running 700+ on his 95 block with a girdle that is not as good as the one he is coming out with.
A boxed upper for the split port or single port may be one of the best investments if you are planning a high HP . Both of these intakes have proved to be Very restrictive . The old school of though was it was just the single port uppers that were restrictive but within the last year or so it had been discovered that the split port is also very restrictive even compared to the best ported and polished upper.
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660.0 RWHP 583.0 Ft. lb's trq. @17.4 PSI
11.584@124.58mph( Old set up)
2002 V6 3.8 liter.
T-5 G-Force Dog Ring
Custom T-80 Turbo built by Delk Performance
thankx for the info gt-eater....keep me informed please about that girdle...I will find an 01 block after the 1st of the year and start from their..but I am very interested in all the hp I can get out of that motor.
Hey GT..... So I should get the boxed upper for my SC? If so, where is the best place to get it? We have to change the fulies anyway, so why not just swap it out while we're there. I really don't want to go with a blower cam at this point because I'm picking up another motor out of my friends car which will be my project motor. Don't they have to cut and weld the upper to take out the IMRC? Enlighten me 'oh great bearer of wisdom......
Hey GT..... So I should get the boxed upper for my SC? If so, where is the best place to get it? We have to change the fulies anyway, so why not just swap it out while we're there. I really don't want to go with a blower cam at this point because I'm picking up another motor out of my friends car which will be my project motor. Don't they have to cut and weld the upper to take out the IMRC? Enlighten me 'oh great bearer of wisdom......
The Imrc's are in the lower, the time to do this is when you order your ported lower intake , Like SSM if you tell him you want them removed he can do it for you OR you can use a 99 Lower (they did not have them ) .
On the upper , yes if you want to make big numbers you need a boxed upper , currently SSM is the only one that has them but Delk is working on that as well . When you get redy to build your Monster engine let me know I can shed some light on what you need and I can hook you up with Matt .
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660.0 RWHP 583.0 Ft. lb's trq. @17.4 PSI
11.584@124.58mph( Old set up)
2002 V6 3.8 liter.
T-5 G-Force Dog Ring
Custom T-80 Turbo built by Delk Performance
So should I just leave them in for this motor? I really don't want to go digging around in it if I don't need to on this one. This will be my "run it 'till you blow it motor."
So should I just leave them in for this motor? I really don't want to go digging around in it if I don't need to on this one. This will be my "run it 'till you blow it motor."
No just wait for the Monster Motor .
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660.0 RWHP 583.0 Ft. lb's trq. @17.4 PSI
11.584@124.58mph( Old set up)
2002 V6 3.8 liter.
T-5 G-Force Dog Ring
Custom T-80 Turbo built by Delk Performance
supercharger or procharger 
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