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Old 04-15-2007   #1 (permalink)
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alright for my next mod i was thinking about getting some new springs, shocks, and struts. after some research i am leaning towards these ones http://www.stangmods.com/Mustang-Sus...ge-p/00287.htm
i wanna be able to feel the road. i had a 300zx before i got my stang and i loved the suspension on that. i want my stang to have firm suspension too. so would this be a good kit to get. for installation i called a shop and they said 225 but i know to owner so he will give me a better deal but is that a good deal on install. thanks in advance.
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Well its not that hard to do yourself... i did mine in a few hours...
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alright for my next mod i was thinking about getting some new springs, shocks, and struts. after some research i am leaning towards these ones http://www.stangmods.com/Mustang-Sus...ge-p/00287.htm
i wanna be able to feel the road. i had a 300zx before i got my stang and i loved the suspension on that. i want my stang to have firm suspension too. so would this be a good kit to get. for installation i called a shop and they said 225 but i know to owner so he will give me a better deal but is that a good deal on install. thanks in advance.
The feel of the road has more to do with the rubber bushings and suspension geometry than just teh shocks and struts.

The mustang suspension is isolated by 1 bushings, 2 the rag joint in teh steering column, and 3 the lack of caster in the suspension.

To get it to feel like your 300Z, you're goning to have to tackle them 1 by 1.
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ahh i see. well is the kit i posted in the beginning of the thread a good kit to go with and will it give me better handling? i mainly just want to improve the handling so it doesn't feel like im driving a boat.
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ahh i see. well is the kit i posted in the beginning of the thread a good kit to go with and will it give me better handling? i mainly just want to improve the handling so it doesn't feel like im driving a boat.
Those will help. but the boat feeling comes from 3 things.

1) frame flexibility

2) sway bars

3) compliance in the suspension.

have you installed subframe connectors, strut tower brace, and lower chassis braces yet?
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no i havent yet. which one would help the most out of the ones u mentioned
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no i havent yet. which one would help the most out of the ones u mentioned

You're going to need all three before you can tune the suspension.

Check out the systems from Steeda, MAximum Motorsports, Griggs, Evolution, and Agent 47.
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thanks KS im gonna shop around and do some research on all those parts. btw are the subframe connectors hard to install or is a simple weld on thing i can take to a welding shop
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thanks KS im gonna shop around and do some research on all those parts. btw are the subframe connectors hard to install or is a simple weld on thing i can take to a welding shop

Griggs are a tough install. The rest are weld on.

There's also HANS Racecraft, Roush, and Saleen, now that I think of it . .

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do i need the full frame ones or the standard frame ones. im leaning towards the maximum motorsports powder coated ones. they sound like a good deal.
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It's going to depend on how far you want to go. If you plan on needing a cage, the standard would be fine.
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im going to have to get subframe connectors... what do you think is the best KS?
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I don't think there is a best -just best for what you want.

Kenny Brown's were the best for what I wanted and where I wanted to go, -but first and foremost go for the lightest ones you can find -generally, and if you want side pipes, make sure they'll clear . ..
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The thing you should work on (while it drives like a boat) is smoothing out your driving style. If you can drive without rocking the platform, your technique will be better in the long run.

Believe me, compared to my 68, this car is a LOT harder to drive smooth in, but you get a lot faster if you do. And you can keep the platform smooth - it just takes practice.
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