What exactly does a "T-lock" do? Never heard of one before.
It's Ford's nomenclature for a Limited-Slip Differential.
LSD, well, that can mean a lot of things.
I mean, if they promised LSD with every Mustang, they might get a lot of buyers, but the insurance companies would probably bump everyone's rates, right?
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to me there are three things that the v6 lacks from the factory.
1) stronger rear end with LSD
2) better tires, 115mph top speed, come on
3) dual exhaust, even if it wasn't a great performance exhaust the look is just so much better.
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to me there are three things that the v6 lacks from the factory.
1) stronger rear end with LSD
2) better tires, 115mph top speed, come on
3) dual exhaust, even if it wasn't a great performance exhaust the look is just so much better.
1) the little 7.5" holds up pretty well with the T-LOK installed.
2) It is not the tires, per se, but the driveshaft that requires the 115 limit. 2 piece POS.
3) well, the V6 is sold as a "sporty" car... all mustangs with 4s and 6s have always had single exhaust (even some V8's).
It is up to the Mustang owner to make their pony "special".
That's why we are here!
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1) the little 7.5" holds up pretty well with the T-LOK installed.
2) It is not the tires, per se, but the driveshaft that requires the 115 limit. 2 piece POS.
3) well, the V6 is sold as a "sporty" car... all mustangs with 4s and 6s have always had single exhaust (even some V8's).
It is up to the Mustang owner to make their pony "special".
That's why we are here!
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1) yeah, the torque curve is different for the 6, the 7.5" is ok, even better for the cammers, since they have less grunt than the 3.8L.
2) it's the tires, I don't think the 4.0L has a 2 piece either. Regardless the 05+ GT has teh 2 piece driveshaft & is not limited.
3) Actually, the GT is sold as a Sporty Car as well. The only Sports Cars in America are produced by GM, the Corvette, Sky, & the Solstice.
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2005: 210-horsepower 4.0-liter sohc V6 engine
240 foot-pounds of torque
The 4.0 is also more willing to rev faster.
2) The 4.0 has a 2 piece driveshaft. See photo of broken one. Broke at approx 130MPH on dyno run.
3) The GT is a performance/musclecar.
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2005: 210-horsepower 4.0-liter sohc V6 engine
240 foot-pounds of torque
The 4.0 is also more willing to rev faster.
2) The 4.0 has a 2 piece driveshaft. See photo of broken one. Broke at approx 130MPH on dyno run.
3) The GT is a performance/musclecar.
SOHC
1) look at the torque curves, follows the OHC vs OHV template.
1A) after 2001 the 3.8L received the IMRC which bumped torque to 245ft/lbs.
2) what type of dyno?
3) revving faster has nothing to do with fatigue of the rear diff. it's standing starts/rpm drops that will kill it. the 5.0L/3.8L/4.2L & other OHV engines make torque low in the curve increasing hte stress on the diff. OHC engines make power higher up the curve. this doesn't stress the diff as much as it's already in motion.
3) The GT is not by any means a musclecar. I've driven one. The experience is completely different. Look up Ford Thunderbolt specs, & type at me later.
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1) look at the torque curves, follows the OHC vs OHV template.
1A) after 2001 the 3.8L received the IMRC which bumped torque to 245ft/lbs.
2) what type of dyno?
3) revving faster has nothing to do with fatigue of the rear diff. it's standing starts/rpm drops that will kill it. the 5.0L/3.8L/4.2L & other OHV engines make torque low in the curve increasing hte stress on the diff. OHC engines make power higher up the curve. this doesn't stress the diff as much as it's already in motion.
What is an IMRC?
And does the 4.0 have a lighter flywheel than the 3.8 of '95 (GT flywheel)? I assume thats why it revs faster...
3) The GT is not by any means a musclecar. I've driven one. The experience is completely different. Look up Ford Thunderbolt specs, & type at me later.
I think he might mean it's a musclecar of our generation KS...In my opinion, I don't even think true musclecars are made anymore, ya know?
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And does the 4.0 have a lighter flywheel than the 3.8 of '95 (GT flywheel)? I assume thats why it revs faster...
It revs faster because it's a SOHC. It has to rev more to make power.
Intake Manifold Runner Control - it functions it allows for long intake runners for torque production, then opens the short runners at WOT for HP.
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I think he might mean it's a musclecar of our generation KS...In my opinion, I don't even think true musclecars are made anymore, ya know?
the 2000 Cobra R is the closest thing to a musclecar ever produced in the past 30-35 years or so . . .
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the 2000 Cobra R is the closest thing to a musclecar ever produced in the past 30-35 years or so . . .
Yea, I hear that...I have people that consider my V6 a muscle car just because it's a Mustang. I kinda just laugh it off cause I know it's not very true. I mean I have seen musclecars before and our cars don't have jack on a real musclecar. Like I said, I guess as far as today's standards are concerned I guess we do have a musclecar. And yea, the 2000 Cobra R is pretty mean...
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3) The GT is not by any means a musclecar. I've driven one. The experience is completely different. Look up Ford Thunderbolt specs, & type at me later.
The GT is a musclecar.
Musclecar in a nutshell: Affordable, powerful V8, anyone can own one.
1964 Ford T-Bolt, Limited production, high-cost.
From the factory, classified as "DRAGSTER"... Look it up.
I know my Ford History.
I used to run a 429 Torino. Is that a musclecar by your definition?
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I have to agree with SOCHman on the muscle car...i actually saw a new mustang commercial today which even stated the mustang gt as a muscle car. GT's these days don't have the 4-500 hp that cudas and bosses mighta had but i'm pretty sure a new 300hp gt or mach 1 could hold its own with most of the muscle cars of the era in a straight line quarter. Your car doesnt have to weigh 4000 lbs to be consider muscle.
I have to agree with SOCHman on the muscle car...i actually saw a new mustang commercial today which even stated the mustang gt as a muscle car. GT's these days don't have the 4-500 hp that cudas and bosses mighta had but i'm pretty sure a new 300hp gt or mach 1 could hold its own with most of the muscle cars of the era in a straight line quarter. Your car doesnt have to weigh 4000 lbs to be consider muscle.
you believe ads?
the GT is too luxurious to be a musclecar, when it meant anything.
musclecars were deathtraps. You KNEW you were in a can that couldn't steer or brake.
The Mustang's ALWAYS been a Pony Car, not a Musclecar. The only Mustang that ever came close to being a musclecar was the original Shelby, but it cornered too well to be pure muscle.
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The GT is a musclecar.
Musclecar in a nutshell: Affordable, powerful V8, anyone can own one.
1964 Ford T-Bolt, Limited production, high-cost.
From the factory, classified as "DRAGSTER"... Look it up.
I know my Ford History.
I used to run a 429 Torino. Is that a musclecar by your definition?
SOHC
No, that's not a musclecar. There's no way you'd say that if you'd ever driven one.
By that definition, a buick century station wagon with a 455 would be a musclecar.
The Torino was a full-sized car. Not a Musclecar. Too heavy.
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Just because technology advanced and newer cars got a speck of "luxury" (the mustang is far from luxurious by any means) doesnt mean that muscle doesnt thrive in the newer Gt's and special models ( Bullitt, Sallen, Roush, Mach 1). They are known as muscle cars...muscle hinting power. They weren't muscle cars because they didn't steer right and lacked power windows.
I've seen a crazy amount of old cars that didnt steer or brake well. Are they muscle??? These things were problems muscle cars tended to bring to the scene, but muscle has much much more to do with displacement.
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