I have a 96 mustang with 3.8 that head gasket blew and took out block. I am looking at a 2002 3.8 for a donor engine. I see some differences like the fuel rail has one line and injectors look like its in a different location on the heads. Would I have to swap the heads over? How big of deal would this swap be and what will I need to swap over? Any help would be appreciated.
hrmm, not sure if you want to mix and match parts from the pre 99 and 99+ engines, but Im sure you would need the ecu and harness to complete this. If the heads are swapable then I would just grab as much of the engine as you can. Either that or just swap one for one.
hrmm, not sure if you want to mix and match parts from the pre 99 and 99+ engines, but Im sure you would need the ecu and harness to complete this. If the heads are swapable then I would just grab as much of the engine as you can. Either that or just swap one for one.
You don't need the compuer or harness unless you swap in a 99-01 with the IMRC.
He would need a programmer, though. Not sure which would be cheaper . ..
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The milage on the 02 (donor engine) is 49,000 and runs good and has been well maintained.
I was wondering if the heads are different between the 96 and 02?
Or if the blocks were the same? I could swap the 96 heads over to the 02 block if they were the same.
What about balancing issues with internal versus external?
I'm not trying to replace complete engine with intake, injectors, and such, just trying to find a bottom end that will mate up without to much work.
Thanks for your responses, and anything else you can provide.
The milage on the 02 (donor engine) is 49,000 and runs good and has been well maintained.
I was wondering if the heads are different between the 96 and 02?
Or if the blocks were the same? I could swap the 96 heads over to the 02 block if they were the same.
What about balancing issues with internal versus external?
I'm not trying to replace complete engine with intake, injectors, and such, just trying to find a bottom end that will mate up without to much work.
Thanks for your responses, and anything else you can provide.
The heads and intake can be swapped from any car from 94-00. In 2001 they added an IMRC, so you'd need a computer from an 01+ car to operate it.
The heads & intake are COMPLETELY different in the 1999+ cars, but they flow much better than any previous head/intake combo. In fact they flow better than the two valve 4.6L v8.
Using the pre-99 heads is rather pointless. You get 45 more hp AND better gas mileage with the 2002 heads & intake. You just need an 01 lower intake manifold, a K-member (running for $230 or so, from QA1) and a chip or programmer for your computer.
Additionally, the 02 block is a much stronger block, plus you get the windage tray Ford added in 2001. The k-member will knock off a pretty significant amount of weight for better handling and mpg + more modern steering geometry for better handling and a tighter turning radius than even the 99+ cars.
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The milage on the 02 (donor engine) is 49,000 and runs good and has been well maintained.
I was wondering if the heads are different between the 96 and 02?
Or if the blocks were the same? I could swap the 96 heads over to the 02 block if they were the same.
What about balancing issues with internal versus external?
I'm not trying to replace complete engine with intake, injectors, and such, just trying to find a bottom end that will mate up without to much work.
Thanks for your responses, and anything else you can provide.
I made an error. You have a 96 car, you don't need a K-member!!!
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The heads and intake can be swapped from any car from 94-00. In 2001 they added an IMRC, so you'd need a computer from an 01+ car to operate it.
The heads & intake are COMPLETELY different in the 1999+ cars, but they flow much better than any previous head/intake combo. In fact they flow better than the two valve 4.6L v8.
Using the pre-99 heads is rather pointless. You get 45 more hp AND better gas mileage with the 2002 heads & intake. You just need an 01 lower intake manifold, a K-member (running for $230 or so, from QA1) and a chip or programmer for your computer.
Additionally, the 02 block is a much stronger block, plus you get the windage tray Ford added in 2001. The k-member will knock off a pretty significant amount of weight for better handling and mpg + more modern steering geometry for better handling and a tighter turning radius than even the 99+ cars.
what else would i need/upgrade if i can get hold of '99+ heads & intake for my '95 V6? Approx cost is?
I bought the heads I'm going to port & polish for $75. The upper & lower for $50.00 each.
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thats not bad at all. the shopping cart at RPM seems to have broken down....
so you're saying i can upgrade the heads & intake (keeping my K&N), gain +-40hp and better my MPG, without upgrading anything else?
There's a few other small items to take care of - GT Eater posted it on another thread - do a search for "split-port conversion" and you'll likely find it, if the RPM site remains down.
but, yeah. There's a reason why the conversion is so popular.
You'll gain more than 40 hp, because the cam in your car is a hotter cam.
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There's a few other small items to take care of - GT Eater posted it on another thread - do a search for "split-port conversion" and you'll likely find it, if the RPM site remains down.
but, yeah. There's a reason why the conversion is so popular.
You'll gain more than 40 hp, because the cam in your car is a hotter cam.
i'll definately look into it when i take my car in after another 2K miles for servicing...
1996 Mustang 3.8 swapped with 2002 Mustang? 
