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Old 06-05-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Man, I don't want to sound stupid but I want to ask. Could anyone give me tips about driving my manual V6 98 Mustang? I mean I know how to drive, I know how to shift. But I hear terms like rolling gears and all kinds of other things. And I don't have a clue what there talking about.

I was wondering if I could get advice on how to get the most out of my mustang, how to really drive it, where is a good point to shift. All those really stupid questions. And one thing that really bugs me is starting off. How can I get a good start off with a clutch? I mean I let out on the clutch and in on the gas the car takes of slowly. I know these are newbish questions but they have to be asked. I mean this is my first manual.

It's a 5 spd, V6 if that helps.

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This actually is a GREAT question. One of the better Q's i've seen. To honestly answer your question, I would have to say it's all about feel. Doesn't really help you, but when you drive around town with a stick, it will 'click' and you will wonder why you couldn't get it before.. at least it was for me. As far as launching, most people will go thru most of a clutch within a week just trying to get a good smooth launch. I suggest finding a location that is closed off so you can practice. Clutches will burn down just like brake pads and tires.. If you rev to 2500rpm and drop the clutch, you will get some smoke and a good launch.. but that takes experience.. feathering the clutch and all... please feel free to inquire more.
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Ok, well I say I don't know any terms.. I really mean any. lol Whats feathering mean? Get smoke? From the Tires or Pipes?

I have a good feel for it, I shift around 3500, or 4000 and it gives a clean shift. It's not the power I want coming out of a shift that I would like but I keep in mind that it's V6. And thanks for the info, im really trying to learn as much as I can without going on the street and learning by just tearing it up.
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feathering the clutch is when you depress & release the clutch so you can do burnouts. 3500-4000 RPM shifting is fine, however you might get a little better MPG by shifting about 3K, if just running around town.

Driving a standard is a tricky thing, it really is hard to explain, so many body parts moving at one time to make the car move. I'm glad I learned how to drive standard when I was a wee teenager, when dinosaurs still roamed the Earth.....
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I just purchased a 01 ford mustang v6.....gladly everybody in here knows that this car is a bargain for a 1st sports car.....ok I have a question....if you could please elaborate on feathering the clutch....I wanna learn how to do it....but doesn't the car have a limited slip transmission??? I really don't know much......so please elaborate extensively....I do "feel the clutch" and it does feel good at 3k for a shift in the city....but here in lies my question.....what is a good high rpm to switch gears...like racing wise.....I know that the power comes from the exhaust with American cars. what does that mean??? I wanna know what are good rpms to shift when you're !not racing!...just going really fast.....please answer me....I look and look online and I get nothing....YOu guys sound like you know what you're talkin about.....help me be a mustang fanatic!!!!
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I just may have what you're looking for considering I have one..... On my dyno runs, my tq started dropping slightly by 5200rpms or so, but my hp continued to increase until after 5700rpms. But that is what CAI and dual exhaust. I would say your max hp/tq shift on the stocky should be around 5k at the most to maximize your times. If you had duals, CAI, and performance tune, 5500-6000 would be ideal. That is just my timeslip experience and tune results. The single exhaust is the most hinderance on the car.
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I just may have what you're looking for considering I have one..... On my dyno runs, my tq started dropping slightly by 5200rpms or so, but my hp continued to increase until after 5700rpms. But that is what CAI and dual exhaust. I would say your max hp/tq shift on the stocky should be around 5k at the most to maximize your times. If you had duals, CAI, and performance tune, 5500-6000 would be ideal. That is just my timeslip experience and tune results. The single exhaust is the most hinderance on the car.
Wow, that's unusual! you must have a great tune! I've never seen one that didn't drop off after 5600 . ..

But I haven't looked at a dyno since I left Arkansas in 04. ..
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Ok, well I say I don't know any terms.. I really mean any. lol Whats feathering mean? Get smoke? From the Tires or Pipes?

I have a good feel for it, I shift around 3500, or 4000 and it gives a clean shift. It's not the power I want coming out of a shift that I would like but I keep in mind that it's V6. And thanks for the info, im really trying to learn as much as I can without going on the street and learning by just tearing it up.
Man, my advice is to get a decent dirtbike. You can't get a feel for it unless there's more of a direct connection.

Even an xr100 or something for $500 - it's less than teh cost of a clutch in some places, and a heck of a lot of fun.

feathering means you engage and disengage lightly like you're fluttering a wing.

you're trying to maintain traction without bogging or spinning the tires.

Once you do it on a bike, understanding a car is so much simpler -but it's harder to do with your foot than your fingers . . .
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Like I said before, the engine builder must have been having a good day when he built my motor...... Could be the glasspacks too.
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What I want is just to have fun with my car. Wait thats the wrong thing to say, because im having a heck of a time already. I don't wanna race. I just wanna know like, take offs. I HATE taking off slowly. Since I've posted this I've put in LOADS of hours driving. So I have a good feel for the clutch. But take offs are the only thing that bothers me. I feel stricted to slowly letting out on the clutch and pushing in on the gas. I've heard that you can run your RPM up kinda high and then drop it into 2nd. I barely understood the rest of him because he don't know how to speak English. What did he mean like that.

Do I have to baby it letting off like I do in 1st?

How high should the RPMs be?

Would that even give me a take off that would bump heads on the back of the car?

Would it cause damage to my engine?

Thanks for all the help. I know sometimes I talk a lot of nothing trying to get my point across, so i'm going to just say. How can I get someone to bump there head on the back of my window right if not very soon after the light turns green? Thanks again for all the help!

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What I want is just to have fun with my car. Wait thats the wrong thing to say, because im having a heck of a time already. I don't wanna race. I just wanna know like, take offs. I HATE taking off slowly. Since I've posted this I've put in LOADS of hours driving. So I have a good feel for the clutch. But take offs are the only thing that bothers me. I feel stricted to slowly letting out on the clutch and pushing in on the gas. I've heard that you can run your RPM up kinda high and then drop it into 2nd. I barely understood the rest of him because he don't know how to speak English. What did he mean like that.

Do I have to baby it letting off like I do in 1st?

How high should the RPMs be?

Would that even give me a take off that would bump heads on the back of the car?

Would it cause damage to my engine?

Thanks for all the help. I know sometimes I talk a lot of nothing trying to get my point across, so i'm going to just say. How can I get someone to bump there head on the back of my window right if not very soon after the light turns green? Thanks again for all the help!

~Rob
you'll want to drop the clutch at around 2000RPM to begin with, and experiment - your tires will determine which is best.

It won't cause damage to your engine, but your clutch will need replacement more frequently, unti lyou upgrade it.

If you want to rev quickly, you need a lighter flywheel.
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Upgrade to what? The clutch is about to give out, im sure it has warped plates so were going to tear it up just a little more then get a new one. What would be a good one?
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Spec Aluminum flywheel, Your's is heavier than a Cobra's. item #1 is the flywheel.

PM GT-Eater, Shinerstang, Kmag13, or look up th earchives under aluminum flywheel - I'd explain more, but I don't have much time.
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Wow, that's unusual! you must have a great tune! I've never seen one that didn't drop off after 5600 . ..

But I haven't looked at a dyno since I left Arkansas in 04. ..
i thought the only way to achieve that was cams??????

haha.... wow.....

sorry but i couldnt help but point that out.
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haha.... wow.....

sorry but i couldnt help but point that out.
5700 still isn't much - I don't know if you've ever worked in production, but no two engines necessarily perform alike, tolerances, different suppliers, etc. can make a big difference between two cars made in the same day.

there are always outliers, as I've said repeatedly. a 100RPM outlier is within the average.

I've seen several that dropped off at 5400 RPM, and one guy says had one that made power to 5900 RPM, no one could believe that one either -he likely got a cam meant for a different application when they ran out on the line. but he didn't have the capability to post the dyno run.

The 3.8L has been used in a number of applications, so anything could have happened.

the 1998 and 2001 cars were highly variable, because several switchovers took place while the line was running. Different cranks, different cams, different steering systems, etc.,

Which is also why several parts that will work for 1994-1997 cars may or may not work with the 1998s, and several parts for a 1999 car may or may not work with the 1998s.
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