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Old 07-19-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Default Need some help with a 50/50 exhaust choice.

I'm looking within the next couple of weeks to get a full exhaust on my car. I've got numerous questions: my car is a 1998 Ford Mustang V6 3.8L by the way.

Since I live in Ca a catted h/y/x-pipe is required, I found a MAC Catted H-Pipe for my 'stang, it seems like a good deal but not sure here's the first question:

I'm looking for the best sound pipe that has the cat's installed on it any suggestions? By best sounding I mean throaty sound, not like a ricey sound if you catch my drift. I know stainless steel is the way to go but I'm not having very good luck for a v6. My options are completely open to any brand.

As well as a catted pipe, I'm looking for a good muffler. I've narrowed it down to one company, flowmaster, but I have no idea what series would be the best for my v6. I want it to sound throaty all the way up to 3500RPM, after that it doesn't matter, I don't usually go higher than 3500.

As for the rest of the piping, that'll be custom done by my friend's shop, he's hooking me up with that part of the deal (I don't have to pay a dime for the custom part, just the install which is $25 and the parts that I'm buying).

Any help will be appreciated, I already took a look at youtube for good exhaust systems and that's how I narrowed it down by the way, thanks!
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Magnaflow off road x-pipe (have two of four cats on for inspection), and two 40 series flows. Its throaty to about 1500 RPMs then it starts the traditional flowmaster drone. My set up is deep, but has no rumble, just resonates loud.
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I'm looking within the next couple of weeks to get a full exhaust on my car. I've got numerous questions: my car is a 1998 Ford Mustang V6 3.8L by the way.

Since I live in Ca a catted h/y/x-pipe is required, I found a MAC Catted H-Pipe for my 'stang, it seems like a good deal but not sure here's the first question:

I'm looking for the best sound pipe that has the cat's installed on it any suggestions? By best sounding I mean throaty sound, not like a ricey sound if you catch my drift. I know stainless steel is the way to go but I'm not having very good luck for a v6. My options are completely open to any brand.

As well as a catted pipe, I'm looking for a good muffler. I've narrowed it down to one company, flowmaster, but I have no idea what series would be the best for my v6. I want it to sound throaty all the way up to 3500RPM, after that it doesn't matter, I don't usually go higher than 3500.

As for the rest of the piping, that'll be custom done by my friend's shop, he's hooking me up with that part of the deal (I don't have to pay a dime for the custom part, just the install which is $25 and the parts that I'm buying).

Any help will be appreciated, I already took a look at youtube for good exhaust systems and that's how I narrowed it down by the way, thanks!
Just have a muffler shup fab one for you.
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i'm not sure what to do as far as the x/h/y-piping... yes i could get the muffler shop to fabricate one for me but, would it sound as good as one that could be bought from a manufacturer? And the shop I'm getting the work done only has Flowmasters to put on the car, So I'm wondering if anyone that has any series flowmaster on there car, to give me some details on the sound, it would help out very much! and thanks, ks and godlik3.
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i'm not sure what to do as far as the x/h/y-piping... yes i could get the muffler shop to fabricate one for me but, would it sound as good as one that could be bought from a manufacturer? And the shop I'm getting the work done only has Flowmasters to put on the car, So I'm wondering if anyone that has any series flowmaster on there car, to give me some details on the sound, it would help out very much! and thanks, ks and godlik3.
Right now I have a true dual exhaust with cats on my 94 v6 vert. If im understanding this thread correctly you're saying that adding a h or x pipe will increase sound on my car if I add one???
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an h-pipe increases the sound the most. but im not sure since you have true duals if it'll increase the sound at all.
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well i talked to my friend today about getting the exhaust installed, he said it's absolutely worthless to get the h-pipe, he said he can't the stock y-pipe and make it into true duals for much cheaper and better sound. His line and I quote this exactly because it had me laughing for a little while is: "With the h-pipe you're basically saying, yeah I only want to use half of my exhaust rather then both exhaust pipes. With true duals you're using both exhausts efficiently."

Does anybody have the Super 40 Series (with delta flow)?? It's either the Super 40 or just the 40 series and I'm trying to make a guesstimate of which is better.
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an h-pipe increases the sound the most. but im not sure since you have true duals if it'll increase the sound at all.
doesn't increase sound, it cancels high frequencies.
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well i talked to my friend today about getting the exhaust installed, he said it's absolutely worthless to get the h-pipe, he said he can't the stock y-pipe and make it into true duals for much cheaper and better sound. His line and I quote this exactly because it had me laughing for a little while is: "With the h-pipe you're basically saying, yeah I only want to use half of my exhaust rather then both exhaust pipes. With true duals you're using both exhausts efficiently."

Does anybody have the Super 40 Series (with delta flow)?? It's either the Super 40 or just the 40 series and I'm trying to make a guesstimate of which is better.

Sorry, your friend doesn't know what he's talking about. using only half the exhaust is a ludicrous statement. the h-pipe connects both sides to each other -on v8 engines, it equalizes teh flow, bot on the 3.8L it's only real function is to cancel high frequency waves. It helps a miniscule amount in equalization but only on the 6-1 & 3-4 firings.
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ah, ok that makes me a little worried about his statement then haha. hopefully he's not the one working on my car (he's the head shop manager so i don't think he will be anyway).

Is their any sound difference between the true duals and the h-pipe?
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ah, ok that makes me a little worried about his statement then haha. hopefully he's not the one working on my car (he's the head shop manager so i don't think he will be anyway).

Is their any sound difference between the true duals and the h-pipe?
the h-pipe cancels higher frequency waves.
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There's the best I can do of an H-pipe above -Higher frequency waves bounce around more than lower frequency waves, the crossover causes them to cancel each other out - the exhaust sounds mellower.
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so going with just straight true duals will make the exhaust sound more high pitch and louder whereas the h-pipe will make it sound deeper?
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so going with just straight true duals will make the exhaust sound more high pitch and louder whereas the h-pipe will make it sound deeper?
Yes the undertones will be less high pitched with an h-pipe. The BIGGEST factor is your mufflers.
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the shop I'm taking it to only sells flowmasters and if I do go flowmaster it'll be the 40 series (Loud, interior resonance, sound good to me haha).
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Have you considered just going with some GT/Cobra take-offs. In my experience, they offer a volume increase over stock w/o going really load and, often times, raspy.

Here's mine w/ Cobra take-offs...

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