[Black.mustang]

2002 mustang v6 with the following mods:

short ram intake
dual flowmasters
shortie headers
performance +4 spark plugs
all 4 catalytics off

runing a straight pipe from headers to exhaust

how much to the wheels and overall hp do u think iam at?
becuase i feel a huge diference compare to a stock v6

thanks

[Shantox]

Just a ballpark guess here but I would say maybe in the 215-225 range at the wheels. That being said I will leave the door open for correction .


Shantox

[Black.mustang]

yea thats what alot of people are telling me..in that hp range..because..ive driven a stock v6 compare to mines..and it is a huge diference..so im asuming like 215 to the wheels..and like 230-235 bhp?

[ninetysixmustang]

No I'm estimating less. Stock you're running only 190HP. Your restriction is still in the intake manifold and heads. At most you would've gained 10 HP with intake and exhaust. Headers would have not netted you anything as stock ones are good enough for a stock engine. I would say 200 HP at the wheels

[v6stng24]

Yeah 96 is right with the set up you have right now your not getting very much out of the mods you have. Like he said the headers arn't netting you anything right now,you'd need to go all out with the engine or put a blower in for the headers to have real effect, and taking off the cats actually hurt your low end speed. As far as the other mods go i guesse it'd depend on what kind of air intake you have and the size of the exhaust along with if crush bends were used on the exhaust to get over the axle. I've seen some exhausts add over 20 rwhp and some short ram air intakes can add 8 rwhp. But the current mods you have put on are actually holding you back a little bit.

[Black.mustang]

i have a mac short ram intake..dual flowmasters H piping..straight pipe from headers to exhuast..i'am planning on getting a throttle body next..but what do you all think is a good bhp estimate for me?..230?

[ninetysixmustang]

Originally Posted by Black.mustang

i have a mac short ram intake..dual flowmasters H piping..straight pipe from headers to exhuast..i'am planning on getting a throttle body next..but what do you all think is a good bhp estimate for me?..230?

I wouldn't waste the money on a throttle body. You need to get P&P intake and heads. You're not going to make power with a throttle body.

[Menace]

You need to get P&P intake and heads

may i ask what you mean by P&P intake?

[Mustangdewd3.8]

running very open for a pretty unmodded N/A engine...

Prolly lost a lot of torque.

im guessing 195-200 and maybe 210-215 lbs ft torque?

P&P is a port and polish to the heads and intake manifold. Check out supersix motor sports for some set ups

that may give you a lil more considering the 99+ has a split port set up.

Good luck.

[shinerstang]

Originally Posted by Black.mustang

2002 mustang v6 with the following mods:

short ram intake
dual flowmasters
shortie headers
performance +4 spark plugs
all 4 catalytics off

runing a straight pipe from headers to exhaust

how much to the wheels and overall hp do u think iam at?
becuase i feel a huge diference compare to a stock v6

thanks

I don't think you are as high as you think you are. With a programmer, you could pick up another 15 or so, but you're probably around 180-190rwhp up from 150rwhp+-. Don't forget about 25%+- valvetrain loss from your stock crank rating.

I agree with ninety-six and V6stang24.

[Shantox]

Originally Posted by shinerstang

I don't think you are as high as you think you are. With a programmer, you could pick up another 15 or so, but you're probably around 180-190rwhp up from 150rwhp+-. Don't forget about 25%+- valvetrain loss from your stock crank rating.

I agree with ninety-six and V6stang24.

Heya Shiner,
He has a 2002 soooooo didn't he start at 193 instead of 150 ?

Shantox

[Mustangdewd3.8]

I think ford advertised their engines by the power at the crank (before it hit the wheels) so technically. 94-98 produced like 105-115 at the wheels

99-04 - probably like 140-150 at the wheels
05+ - 160-170

But I was never really sure. it would make more sense, marketing wise. sounds liek you have a lot of power until it gets to the wheels haha.

[v6stng24]

hmm i was always told that 2001-2004 had 190 rwhp stock. I think im just going to pretend that i never read any of the last few posts, hearing that its only 150 to the wheels is the last thing i need.

But i'd rethink the t-body black mustang, like lcurle posted before.

Throttle Body
This is one of those black sheep parts where bigger isnt better. 99+ Stock I think has a 65mm Throttle Body, or TB from now on. If your not turbo, supered or No2'ed this mod shouldn't be in the future until after a Power Adder, or PA.

[shinerstang]

Originally Posted by Shantox

Heya Shiner,
He has a 2002 soooooo didn't he start at 193 instead of 150 ?

Shantox

Yep, he did, but you forgot about drivetrain loss. Everyone get confused when they ask about hp. My first question is always "at the crank or to the ground." There's a big difference. Mine was 175rwhp with just CAI and duals before my tune which added 20 more. I missed that he didn't have a tuner, so his numbers are a bit lower than my last post. So that would put him around 175+- or so before a custom tune. The exhaust, headers, and he lost some hp/tq with the cat removal. He is feeling a top-end difference because of his duals. Headers and plugs are not big increasers of numbers until it gets a power adder. You just aren't going to get big numbers until you physically go into the motor to do changes.

[markwondi]

Do yourself a favor and upgrade those +4 spark plugs to the trash can. Get yourself a set of copper plugs and then you'll actually make power.