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Default HP gains from RPM outlet & mods for 2001 Mustang V6

I am going to take advantage of the dyno tune specials from RPM outlet and was wondering what the HP gains I would expect from the following modifications, I know they are usually the most common ones and I am hoping someone can give me an idea of the BHP and RWHP I can expect from these mods. My budget maxes out at about $500.00 a month that I can set aside, I dont really have a time line but am looking at adding a power adder down the line, after I have done the mods I can afford LOL, This is just so addicting.
  • Flowmaster 40's Series II True Dual Exhaust
  • 4:10 Gears & T-LOK
  • K&N Cold-Air Kit
  • MotorVator Throttle Body Spacer
  • BBK 65mm Throttle Body
  • MOTOBLUE™ 42% UnderPulley
  • MOTOBLUE HARD-CORE Performance Wire Set
  • NGK V-Power Spark Plugs (set of 6)
  • BBK Chrome Plated 1 5/8 Shorty Headers*
  • SCT STRATEGY Flash Tuner
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  • Flowmaster 40's Series II True Dual Exhaust
  • 4:10 Gears & T-LOK
  • K&N Cold-Air Kit
  • MotorVator Throttle Body Spacer
  • BBK 65mm Throttle Body
  • MOTOBLUE™ 42% UnderPulley
  • MOTOBLUE HARD-CORE Performance Wire Set
  • NGK V-Power Spark Plugs (set of 6)
  • BBK Chrome Plated 1 5/8 Shorty Headers*
  • SCT STRATEGY Flash Tuner
If you order from RPM-Outlet make sure to do it over the phone. There are TOO MANY horror stories about ordering online. Save yourself trouble and your money by ordering over the phone.

okay starting with the exhaust.
Flowmaster's are made for sound, they are not made for power, so if you're looking for more power, take a look at mufflers that have a straight through design (Pypes, MAC, etc.)

Gearing will do you a world of wonders. check out this post for my opinion on gearing. The T-lok will just help you put that power to the ground as well as give you a nice two-wheel burn out instead of one

The K&N CAI will do you plenty of things power-wise. Increased throttle response, more hp and tq, and the look is much better than the air box.

Throttle body spacers are pretty worthless on a v6, they don't really do anything power-wise.

The increased size throttle body won't do you good either unless you have a power adder like a supercharger or turbo.


Underdriver Pullies are good as well, they take the hp lost from the a/c and put it back to the motor. Just make sure you don't have a large amount of electrical demand for your car, or it will suffer (i.e. aftermarket stereo, speakers, amps, subs, etc.)

Performance wires will get you a little bit better gas mileage and a little more power just for the fact that it's more effectively getting the spark to the spark plugs.

Spark plugs will only help you if your's are old and worn out.

Headers, well I think that the headers won't do you very much until you get a power adder on your car, the stock headers are free flowing.

The tuner will help you out tremendously. It will be able to tune your car any way you want, but only tune your car AFTER you install the CAI and exhaust! Otherwise you will see minimal to no gains.

Overall, I think you're looking at about 45HP tops from all of that. And that's on a good day as well.
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If you order from RPM-Outlet make sure to do it over the phone. There are TOO MANY horror stories about ordering online. Save yourself trouble and your money by ordering over the phone.

okay starting with the exhaust.
Flowmaster's are made for sound, they are not made for power, so if you're looking for more power, take a look at mufflers that have a straight through design (Pypes, MAC, etc.)

Gearing will do you a world of wonders. check out this post for my opinion on gearing. The T-lok will just help you put that power to the ground as well as give you a nice two-wheel burn out instead of one

The K&N CAI will do you plenty of things power-wise. Increased throttle response, more hp and tq, and the look is much better than the air box.

Throttle body spacers are pretty worthless on a v6, they don't really do anything power-wise.

The increased size throttle body won't do you good either unless you have a power adder like a supercharger or turbo.


Underdriver Pullies are good as well, they take the hp lost from the a/c and put it back to the motor. Just make sure you don't have a large amount of electrical demand for your car, or it will suffer (i.e. aftermarket stereo, speakers, amps, subs, etc.)

Performance wires will get you a little bit better gas mileage and a little more power just for the fact that it's more effectively getting the spark to the spark plugs.

Spark plugs will only help you if your's are old and worn out.

Headers, well I think that the headers won't do you very much until you get a power adder on your car, the stock headers are free flowing.

The tuner will help you out tremendously. It will be able to tune your car any way you want, but only tune your car AFTER you install the CAI and exhaust! Otherwise you will see minimal to no gains.

Overall, I think you're looking at about 45HP tops from all of that. And that's on a good day as well.
45 HP is being a little optimistic, probably only a touch over 30 if everything is done right. Also, the UD pullies do turn your alternator slower but I am using them and powering to 10" subs and I have had no problems at all.
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45 HP is being a little optimistic, probably only a touch over 30 if everything is done right. Also, the UD pullies do turn your alternator slower but I am using them and powering to 10" subs and I have had no problems at all.
haha, that's why I said on a good day, it was just a guesstimate

Really? I've heard a lot of stories of it being bad for the Alternator...
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haha, that's why I said on a good day, it was just a guesstimate

Really? I've heard a lot of stories of it being bad for the Alternator...
lol, I love them good days

If you have a complete system with 2 12" subs and 2 amps then you might have problems with keeping power. Actually the UD pullies are better for the accessories being that they put less strain on them.
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yep good days are everyday for my car

okay that makes more sense haha.
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Thats all?! that averages to less than 10hp per $1,000. Any better ways to get a decent amount of HP for the buck? Are the add ons worth doing first if I end up getting some type of power adder? what should be done to get the car ready for a power adder? I want to see HP or at least performance increase with each mod or at the very least making a positive step towards a nice ride. All I have is the stock mach 460 stereo system which for me is more than enough, every now and then I plug an Ipod into the cig adapter but rarely so my accessories are fine.
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Thats all?! that averages to less than 10hp per $1,000. Any better ways to get a decent amount of HP for the buck? Are the add ons worth doing first if I end up getting some type of power adder? what should be done to get the car ready for a power adder? I want to see HP or at least performance increase with each mod or at the very least making a positive step towards a nice ride. All I have is the stock mach 460 stereo system which for me is more than enough, every now and then I plug an Ipod into the cig adapter but rarely so my accessories are fine.
Depends on how much money you're willing to spend.

UDP's, CAI, exhaust, gears and tuner are a start to building a car's horsepower. Since you already have an intake that's a split port (94-98's are single port creating 40 less hp) you don't need to worry about that.

Really the only other things you could do are a stroker kit, port and polish the heads and both upper and lower intakes to increase air flow, and that's about it.

If you wanted to add a supercharger without damaging your engine in the long run, is by forging the internals. (with something like a stroker kit)

All of that will cost you high-end dollar but is worth it in the long run if you're able to complete the job. I just recently did a 4.2L Stroker Kit and can significantly feel the difference
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go to VMPtuning.com They have a 11psi S/C kit that you could stick on your car and comes with everything you need,a few things with it like subframe connectors wouldn't be a bad idea either
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Thats all?! that averages to less than 10hp per $1,000. Any better ways to get a decent amount of HP for the buck? Are the add ons worth doing first if I end up getting some type of power adder? what should be done to get the car ready for a power adder? I want to see HP or at least performance increase with each mod or at the very least making a positive step towards a nice ride. All I have is the stock mach 460 stereo system which for me is more than enough, every now and then I plug an Ipod into the cig adapter but rarely so my accessories are fine.
What do you want the finished product to be like? If you are planning on getting a supercharger then the UD pullies are out of the picture. The big question is what is your goal for the car? Without knowing that then it is hard to say what the first step should be.
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go to VMPtuning.com They have a 11psi S/C kit that you could stick on your car and comes with everything you need,a few things with it like subframe connectors wouldn't be a bad idea either
Lol, does it come with a new rear end after you blow up the stock differential?
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if only it did lol
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I agree with most everbody here. In my opinion forget about the throttle body, headers and tb spacer for now until you decide to add a sc or tc because you will find little gains until you do and they are quite expensive. That right there should take your ratio way under 10hp for every $1000 and you'll still be within a few hp of what you would be with them installed. The money from those three things could either get you some nice shocks, struts n springs or like stanger said save it towards a kit off supersixmotorsports.

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And if its complete power your after I'd look at MAC's 2.5" true dual exhausts with either a catted H-pipe to save your torque or get a prochamber to get all the hp you can out of it. Other than that the rest of the list looks pretty good. The 4.10's and t-lok will get a good bite and jump off the line. The pullies will give you that untapped hp granted your not into spl car audio and a sc isn't in your future, the tuner will bring everything together making it a fine tuned piece of art and the rest of your list will give your stang that extra step not to mention the fact that it will be much happier.
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