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Old 10-21-2007   #1 (permalink)
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So I'm looking into what I can do with my engine. It seems like I can swap it with a v8 4.6 or 5.0L. But for that I'm going to need a new cluster, exhaust, wiring harness, maybe a new rear end and whatever else I missed. I want to overhaul the engine for the fact that it's almost at 150k miles. But is it worth it to rebuild my engine and beef it up with performance parts, new gears, underdrive pullys, exhaust system and a CAI, or should I swap it? I'm also putting insurance and fuel efficiency into the picture because although I can afford the things needed to be done, I'm emptying my money into the car and hoping to get the best out of it without killing myself with insurance and gas
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stick with your sixxer, the 4.6/5.0 swap into a v6 is a PITA as well as it can burn a hole in your pocket. For the amount of money it would take to swap a v8 in their, you could have yourself a heavily modified v6 getting plenty of power, saving on insurance, and giving you relatively reasonable gas mileage.
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Yes, and there are newly rebuilt motors on the net selling for around 1,500 or so.
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If you're seriously considering a 4.6 or 5.0 instead of your 3.8, I'd guess that it would be cheaper to buy an older gt with less milage than swapping.
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So I'm looking into what I can do with my engine. It seems like I can swap it with a v8 4.6 or 5.0L. But for that I'm going to need a new cluster, exhaust, wiring harness, maybe a new rear end and whatever else I missed. I want to overhaul the engine for the fact that it's almost at 150k miles. But is it worth it to rebuild my engine and beef it up with performance parts, new gears, underdrive pullys, exhaust system and a CAI, or should I swap it? I'm also putting insurance and fuel efficiency into the picture because although I can afford the things needed to be done, I'm emptying my money into the car and hoping to get the best out of it without killing myself with insurance and gas
Super Six Motorsports engines/shortblocks

They have fully assembled v6's that will easily walk v8's
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whats the difference between shortblocks and longblocks and all that?

I feel so dumb asking, like the answer is right there but for some reason I feel wrong
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I cant figure out which block is for my year. It seems like they're only talking about the FOX body stangs which go up to 93 and the late EFI models, and the 99-04 models. Are they just saying it's easy to swap the engine they give you in these models, and I could put one in my 95, or do the engines only work on those models?
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whats the difference between shortblocks and longblocks and all that?

I feel so dumb asking, like the answer is right there but for some reason I feel wrong
Shortblock= block and rotating assembly

Longblock= shortblock, plus the heads and valvetrain (no intake however).

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They have fully assembled v6's that will easily walk v8's
Stock GT's possibly, but not modded ones.
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ok so does a longblock come with the rotating assembly also?

and I'm still confused about the supersix engines lol
Do any of them work with my 95 v6 3.8L?
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Yes, the longblocks come with the rotating assembly as MW stated above. You would need your current intake along with your accessories. You would also need to keep your motor mounts and get a dynotune after the install. At that point, you should get your intakes ported and polished or buying a motor from him would be useless because your upper/lower intakes will still restrict the flow of your heads, so hp increase will be minimal. It can get to be a never ending spiral as soon as you tear into a motor for modification. All the parts are made to work together,even in a stock motor, so when you change one thing, the other parts need to be altered for best results.
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well before I just wanted to rebuild the engine, but now I'm leaning toward swapping it with one of supersix's V6 engines
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Just call Tom and tell him that the Shine's sent you. He is very patient and stands by his work.......
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ok cool, I'll get on that tomorrow, thanx!
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